TSA CBA Terminated

[Wizard]

Yes. Him and Duffy already hinted at the possibility of raises. They know jobs that take high skill and special people (ATC), and jobs you can hire anyone to do (TSA).

Pal, if a helicopter didn’t beam it straight for a commercial plane who knows where we would be right now.

 

[SquawkHijack]

thought this would have been posted already.

They’re coming.

Homeland Security ends TSA collective bargaining agreement, in effort to dismantle union protections

A union representing Transportation Security Administration workers calls the Department of Homeland Security's decision to end the collective bargaining agreement with them an “unprovoked attack.”

apnews.com

TSOs are not covered under 5 USC as public safety positions. They are not coming for us.

Pal, if a helicopter didn’t beam it straight for a commercial plane who knows where we would be right now.

So you’re complaining about the circumstances at hand that could result in something we all want? I swear you’ll say anything just to bitch in here.

 

[Raise when?]

On topic though, I think we deserve a raise (I didn't mean to imply that before). I just mean that certain political circles, maybe the Union, and some of the public might not sympathize due to ongoing events.

The union thinks we're overpaid

 

[32andBelow]

Don’t forget to call in tomorrow to hear Nick tell us whatever he’s gonna tell us

 

[+TSRA]

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The union thinks we're overpaid

Did anybody question the data &/or the methods he used to come up with his "facts and myths"? He didn't ask for my ESL (or is it ELS?).

Here's one thing I know. And I don't care WHO or WHAT says differently. My take home pay has remained unchanged since about 2016. Between taxes and ESPECIALLY health care, the amount put into my bank account every two weeks is the same. The amount taken out of my bank account though has expediently increased: mobile phone, natural gas, electric, water, sewer, garbage, auto and home insurance, child care, internet, home maintenance, HOA...up, up, up.

 

[Raise when?]

Did anybody question the data &/or the methods he used to come up with his "facts and myths"? He didn't ask for my ESL (or is it ELS?).

Here's one thing I know. And I don't care WHO or WHAT says differently. My take home pay has remained unchanged since about 2016. Between taxes and ESPECIALLY health care, the amount put into my bank account every two weeks is the same. The amount taken out of my bank account though has expediently increased: mobile phone, natural gas, electric, water, sewer, garbage, auto and home insurance, child care, internet, home maintenance, HOA...up, up, up.

im with you brotha

same reason why the dems lost the presidency. they were preaching how the economy was great, how everything got so much better, etc....but it got so much worse financially for so many americans. Telling us things are great but things got much worse, and it's NATCA doing it too, gaslighting the shit out of us

 

[32andBelow]

Remember the time all the people said project 2025 was fake. Good times.

 

[MJ]

TSOs are not covered under 5 USC as public safety positions. They are not coming for us.


So you’re complaining about the circumstances at hand that could result in something we all want? I swear you’ll say anything just to bitch in here.

You were saying?

Blackburn, Lee Introduce Bill to End Backroom Federal Labor Union Deals

www.blackburn.senate.gov

 

[SquawkHijack]

You were saying?

Blackburn, Lee Introduce Bill to End Backroom Federal Labor Union Deals

www.blackburn.senate.gov

And you think the Supreme Court wouldn’t have any interest in this whatsoever? Assuming it even passes into law lmao.

 

[CreepyPineapple]

There’s so many dumb bills that get introduced into Congress and go nowhere. There’s minimal articles about this bill which tells me it probably doesn’t have any legs. It’s all just for show

 

[KP-ATC]

You were saying?

Blackburn, Lee Introduce Bill to End Backroom Federal Labor Union Deals

www.blackburn.senate.gov

That doesn't mean NATCA's goose is cooked...

 

[Move78]

You were saying?

Blackburn, Lee Introduce Bill to End Backroom Federal Labor Union Deals

www.blackburn.senate.gov

Our contract is so so awful we should be cheering them on. I mean they called it the Federal Workforce Freedom Act. They want to kill the CBAs so they can up our pay and benefits.

 

[MJ]

The ruling upholding the FAA's actions in imposing the 2006 work rules was made by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. This court reviewed the FAA's authority under 49 USC 40122 and determined that the agency acted within its legal rights.

Sorry I have cute 90s commercial to validate these boring facts

 

[blarg]

The ruling upholding the FAA's actions in imposing the 2006 work rules was made by the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. This court reviewed the FAA's authority under 49 USC 40122 and determined that the agency acted within its legal rights.

Sorry I have cute 90s commercial to validate these boring facts

Those rules were implemented by following the negotiation process at the time, which has since changed. They technically did nothing wrong/illegal, it was just a horseshit bad faith negotiation.

 

[MJ]

Those rules were implemented by following the negotiation process at the time, which has since changed. They technically did nothing wrong/illegal, it was just a horseshit bad faith negotiation.

yep you're right, in 2012.
The overarching point is the intent of what they're pushing for, and that courts aren't some impenetrable shield.

 

[MJ]

Exclusions from Federal Labor-Management Relations Programs

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 7103(b)(1) of title 5 and

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[CF]

Exclusions from Federal Labor-Management Relations Programs

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 7103(b)(1) of title 5 and

www.whitehouse.gov

So do you all still think we should have gone to the negotiating table with trump?

 

[32andBelow]

Do you think it’s any different either way?

 

[Gauff]

Yes we should have negotiated. Full stop.

Sadly the accident at DCA would have only strengthened our negotiations and we likely would have got whatever we asked for.

The issue is Nick would have only asked for more equipment and fucked us on pay cause our union is an embarrassment to every labor union to exist.

Even if the accident doesn't happen we had and still have significant bargaining power in what our day to day job will entails. We are not normal government employees that can be fired because DOGE says so.

 

[CF]

Yes we should have negotiated. Full stop.

Sadly the accident at DCA would have only strengthened our negotiations and we likely would have got whatever we asked for.

The issue is Nick would have only asked for more equipment and fucked us on pay cause our union is an embarrassment to every labor union to exist.

Even if the accident doesn't happen we had and still have significant bargaining power in what our day to day job will entails. We are not normal government employees that can be fired because DOGE says so.

You’re fucking delusional lol