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[DankVectorz]

So Philly is going to work their airspace, to get pushed back up to a level 12. N90 EWR CPCs are going to stay at N90, go to other areas, and still stay a level 12. I’m sure Liberty is going to LOVE getting screwed over by Philly controllers! LOL

I asked, we should have the option to go to PHL. If they make me train in another N90 area I’m going to wash and go to the nest.

But this is probably years away. My guess is that when PHL builds a new tower/Tracon they’ll make room for us, as they don’t have it now. But the new tower was put on indef hold because of Covid.

I did a bunch of cost of living comparisons and a rough estimate of what I would make in PHL. To maintain the same standard of living in the PHL/ILG area, I would need to make $20-30k less than what my salary would be. Anyone who would stay on Long Island to get bigger checks without considering what those checks can get you is a fool. And no point counting the 25% CIP because that expires next year anyway.

 

[Roger_Roger]

I asked, we should have the option to go to PHL. If they make me train in another N90 area I’m going to wash and go to the nest.

Would you really go though...?

 

[DankVectorz]

Would you really go though...?

fuck yes. Get me off Long Island. I’ll put the house up for sale yesterday. Fly Eagles Fly!

Isn't that the hardest area in N90? With that gone it is now a country club facility for sure, make 300K a year with the toughest challenge off the board #bestjobintheworld

Ain’t making $300k without overtime. Who knows when that is coming back. Our traffic is still completely dead.

 

[Dontbotherme]

I asked, we should have the option to go to PHL. If they make me train in another N90 area I’m going to wash and go to the nest.

But this is probably years away. My guess is that when PHL builds a new tower/Tracon they’ll make room for us, as they don’t have it now. But the new tower was put on indef hold because of Covid.

I did a bunch of cost of living comparisons and a rough estimate of what I would make in PHL. To maintain the same standard of living in the PHL/ILG area, I would need to make $20-30k less than what my salary would be. Anyone who would stay on Long Island to get bigger checks without considering what those checks can get you is a fool. And no point counting the 25% CIP because that expires next year anyway.

Yeah, the unfortunate thing is every time it has come to a “vote,” N90 “votes” to stay versus moving off island. Plus, LI doesn’t want to see any part of N90 move. Tax money baby! Philly would be a much better quality of life, but established controllers won’t want to move off LI.

 

[DankVectorz]

Yeah, the unfortunate thing is every time it has come to a “vote,” N90 “votes” to stay versus moving off island. Plus, LI doesn’t want to see any part of N90 move. Tax money baby! Philly would be a much better quality of life, but established controllers won’t want to move off LI.

if they put it to a vote today, it would be pretty close. Almost all the young guys are for it and some of the older guys too. Most of the “LI or die” folks retired or are about to retire. (Seriously, 3 of them are putting their paperwork in the day normal schedules come back)

 

[Super Salt]

if they put it to a vote today, it would be pretty close. Almost all the young guys are for it and some of the older guys too. Most of the “LI or die” folks retired or are about to retire. (Seriously, 3 of them are putting their paperwork in the day normal schedules come back)

So..
Put in an ERR to N90 now, with the intent to wash and NEST gamble out? As good as a time to go that route than any, right?

 

[Dontbotherme]

So..
Put in an ERR to N90 now, with the intent to wash and NEST gamble out? As good as a time to go that route than any, right?

You’d get sent back to where you came from. You need to:
-Transfer and receive $27K
-Hope to get assigned to EWR
-Certify and refuse to go to PHL (assuming that happens in the next few years) OR transfer, with full PCS to PHL, and then wash out of Philly
-THEN wash out of another reassigned sector to go to the NEST from N90 or wash from PHL

 

[Phillytroll69]

You’d get sent back to where you came from. You need to:
-Transfer and receive $27K
-Hope to get assigned to EWR
-Certify and refuse to go to PHL (assuming that happens in the next few years) OR transfer, with full PCS to PHL, and then wash out of Philly
-THEN wash out of another reassigned sector to go to the NEST from N90 or wash from PHL

I need a map

 

[Phillyman2633]

Fly Eagles Fly!

 

[Wizard]

Imagine not posting on one troll account just to make another on an air traffic controller forum.

 

[Horny4Vectors]

Sent out from a former Rep. Looks like the Agency finally has some sort of plan to get things moving again. I would have called it “gaping criteria”, but that’s why I’m not in charge

 

[CaptainObvious]

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Sent out from a former Rep. Looks like the Agency finally has some sort of plan to get things moving again. I would have called it “gaping criteria”, but that’s why I’m not in charge

Funny, the word training wasn’t even mentioned in our membership update

 

[JNev]

If we get sent back right before the NFL season starts... I was looking forward to watching games at home for the 1st time in awhile damnit

 

[AB19]

If we get sent back right before the NFL season starts... I was looking forward to watching games at home for the 1st time in awhile damnit

Should’ve got Saturday Sunday off rookie

 

[wepa]

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[mnsalty]

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Sent out from a former Rep. Looks like the Agency finally has some sort of plan to get things moving again. I would have called it “gaping criteria”, but that’s why I’m not in charge

That’s because it is called gating criteria - and its on the FAA website — And has been for some time. I’d be more curious why NATCA is deciding to communicate about it 2 months later.

the truth will set you free big guy.

 

[Roger_Roger]

So what do yall predict the criteria will be?

 

[mnsalty]

Why predict ? It’s published and has been for some time. Declining cases for 14 days, cases per million less than 80, hospital beds available, signs posted at facilities. Dont be fooled into thinking natca wanted or supports this. They’re being forced - trust me.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

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I hope they provide us with the dentist masks that would be easier to breath in then the heavy cloth masks if you have to wear them for a long time at once.

 

[Mike Kilo]

Why predict ? It’s published and has been for some time. Declining cases for 14 days, cases per million less than 80, hospital beds available, signs posted at facilities. Dont be fooled into thinking natca wanted or supports this. They’re being forced - trust me.

While published for some time it may have changed recently.

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Can you link the gating info on the FAA site? Apparently I’m retarded and can’t find it ?.