Academy Trainees Just Got a 30% Pay Raise

[HurryUpandWait]

Average CPC makes 160…. HA yea right. Average center CPC maybe.

Not a good sign they threw that in there

 

[32andBelow]

Average CPC makes 160…. HA yea right. Average center CPC maybe.

Everyone loves to say what we make after all our OT and differentials. Even NATCA does it.

 

[123atct]

“Wait you CPCs actually thought we cared about you? We hear you brother! We have leverage and collaboration! Also, go fuck yourselves you’re paid more than enough” - NEB

NEB means Nick these days. He’s operating alone.

 

[HurryUpandWait]

NEB means Nick these days. He’s operating alone.

Isn’t that what everyone said about Santa? The NEB isn’t getting a pass this time around.

 

[blockdenied]

People still have to pay for their houses back home

If you're at academy and paying rent to a place you don't even know if you're going back to, then that's on you. You apply knowing you could be sent anywhere especially if you score low enough where you're limited on picking where

 

[123atct]

Isn’t that what everyone said about Santa? The NEB isn’t getting a pass this time around.

None of them should get a pass. They have a responsibility to the membership so whatever strange dynamic is going on they need to figure it out

 

[StealthChain]

If you're at academy and paying rent to a place you don't even know if you're going back to, then that's on you. You apply knowing you could be sent anywhere especially if you score low enough where you're limited on picking where

Some people have families that don’t follow them to OKC and still need a place to live. Or with an academy with such a high attrition rate aren’t willing to give up their housing in the event that they don’t make it and would like to have somewhere to go back to if that happens

 

[32andBelow]

If you're at academy and paying rent to a place you don't even know if you're going back to, then that's on you. You apply knowing you could be sent anywhere especially if you score low enough where you're limited on picking where

People have families. Or don’t want to sell their house if they don’t know if they will pass. And some people do get to go home after passing. Especially under the new system.

The reason they give you per diem is because you are on TDY and have expenses back home

 

[slater]

Is there a way to actually figure out what the median salary is not including OT? It can't be 160k. Base not including locality.

 

[32andBelow]

Is there a way to actually figure out what the median salary is not including OT? It can't be 160k. Base not including locality.

I think it’s fair to include locality just not any premiums.

 

[slater]

I think it’s fair to include locality just not any premiums.

I somewhat agree, but locality varies depending on location and it's cost of living and is skewed in my opinion. Either way would be fine, I was just thinking a baseline idea without other noise.

 

[32andBelow]

I somewhat agree, but locality varies depending on location and it's cost of living and is skewed in my opinion. Either way would be fine, I was just thinking a baseline idea without other noise.

Well that’s why it would be a median

 

[Move78]

I somewhat agree, but locality varies depending on location and it's cost of living and is skewed in my opinion. Either way would be fine, I was just thinking a baseline idea without other noise.

Locality is not based on cost of living

 

[slater]

Locality is not based on cost of living

My point exactly, actually. It shouldn't matter when posting the median pay of ATC.

 

[BPM31694]

Good for the trainees… but isn’t there 40-50k applicants every bid? OKC pay could be zero and I don’t think that would affect our recruitment. Also, if I’m considering a career in ATC, a deciding factor isn’t how much I’ll be paid in the first three months of my career. The main deciding factor is the average salary of someone in that field..

Exactly this. They basically just increased the "sign on bonus".

 

[Cpt_munky]

If you're at academy and paying rent to a place you don't even know if you're going back to, then that's on you. You apply knowing you could be sent anywhere especially if you score low enough where you're limited on picking where

Never heard of lease termination fee? I had to pay $8k to terminate a lease early. That's more than the gross wages of an academy student.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

fuck Nick Daniels.

 

[jdatc]

fuck Nick Daniels.

You stop that right now! Didn’t you see his email?

We support one another and we will continue to ensure that every member is informed. Now more than ever, unity and solidarity are essential.

I mean, can’t you see how hard is he working to buy the ‘few’ full-time article 114 members some time before they are back to their facility of record, even if they don’t live there…. Or even if they haven’t had a medical in forever!

You stop disparaging a union that’s fighting for its (few/special) members!

 

[Raise when?]

nick daniels is exactly who we thought he would be. such a failure, god damn.

 

[32andBelow]

They are requiring way more info to sign up for the telcon tomorrow 😂