Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-18-ALLSRCE-57792

Rallan

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To those of you that are mentioning 'best qualified', pool 2, pool 1, etc. I received a TOL at the end of February as a pool 2 North East applicant. When I had called HR at the start of February, they had told me that more selections could be made but most likely they were under the impression that no further selections would be made and I would have to reapply. Just because you weren't accepted yet, does not mean the ATO will not get around to selecting you.

The reason why some people that are in the 'best qualified' category but were not yet selected could also be due to the personality test that was given during the exam. It isn't clear if the personality test factors into your score of being 'best qualified' but if you had failed the personality quiz, that could be a reason why you were not selected.
Logically, with classes offered throughout the summer and fall, they have to fill them with Tier 2, current TOL and potentially more TOL candidates. I'd assume those in the 'best qualified' band could still receive something this bid, or are early-wave TOL next bid- i.e December. It's entirely possible the bands are not significant and we are overthinking it.
 

CallMePDub

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Later classes are primarily to even out class size I would assume. They may have late TOL recipients and Tier 2 folks from prior bids getting placed into those classes as well.

My TOL is on hold until my deployment is over. So I wouldn’t be able to attend the classes until January or February with most of the tier 2 or delayed individuals.

While it’s inherently possible that folks could get a TOL at this point, it’s also been a few months with no new TOLs...
 

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To those of you who have reached out, how were you able to get an actual response from Medical? I've emailed the generic address twice, and called once, but haven't received even a single reply... 3 weeks since MMPI and 2 since medical, and my HR POC says Med is all I'm waiting on.
 

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To those of you who have reached out, how were you able to get an actual response from Medical? I've emailed the generic address twice, and called once, but haven't received even a single reply... 3 weeks since MMPI and 2 since medical, and my HR POC says Med is all I'm waiting on.
Only reason I have my actual med POC's name/email is because she emailed me asking for paperwork on an injury I suffered less than a year ago. I think some people contacted the general med address and were referred to their med POC? Not sure though...
 

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To those of you who have reached out, how were you able to get an actual response from Medical? I've emailed the generic address twice, and called once, but haven't received even a single reply... 3 weeks since MMPI and 2 since medical, and my HR POC says Med is all I'm waiting on.
I doubt they'd have any news for you for at least 3 more weeks. It's been 7 weeks for me and counting.
 
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To those of you who have reached out, how were you able to get an actual response from Medical? I've emailed the generic address twice, and called once, but haven't received even a single reply... 3 weeks since MMPI and 2 since medical, and my HR POC says Med is all I'm waiting on.
I have emailed the generic medical email and have received responses usually the same day, and Ive emailed a few times.
 

NN9419

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I doubt they'd have any news for you for at least 3 more weeks. It's been 7 weeks for me and counting.
Ok, I wasn't sure what the typical time frame was. It just seems like most people have been hearing something back within 2-4 weeks unless they're hit with a Tier 2. Plus, it sounds like most people who reach out for an update hear something back which has me a bit concerned there's an issue with mine...
 

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Hey all, i found this thread awhile back after looking for some info on the application process. I got referred but never heard anything. I ended up calling one of the numbers listed earlier in this post and the kind lady told me that i had placed pretty middle of the road in band 2? I believe. She also mentioned that they might be taking a few more people soon but I may have misunderstood her. So I'm kind of assuming at this point I will have to try again next year, so I am asking if anyone has any advice they could give that might help me become better qualified.

I'm 21 and mostly been working retail, I have a 2 year college degree, but nothing special outside of that. I'm most of the way through being hired at the TSA (doing med check then I'm in the hiring pool), after not hearing anything I figured that would be better than the work I'm doing now. I've also considered the National Guard, but not sure if that's worth it if my end goal is to be hired at the FAA. I will probably try to start taking classes to a 4 year degree in a math related field while I am employed at the TSA.

I guess I will also add I also passed everything and am in the waiting list to be hired as an Electrical Apprentice at my local IBEW 48, but this is likely to be a year plus out and ATC would be my first choice.

The lady I talked to did say my scores from the ATSA could be kept for 3 years. Should i retest next year? Or just keep what I have?

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but any other opinions or insight would be awesome.
 

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Hey all, i found this thread awhile back after looking for some info on the application process. I got referred but never heard anything. I ended up calling one of the numbers listed earlier in this post and the kind lady told me that i had placed pretty middle of the road in band 2? I believe. She also mentioned that they might be taking a few more people soon but I may have misunderstood her. So I'm kind of assuming at this point I will have to try again next year, so I am asking if anyone has any advice they could give that might help me become better qualified.

I'm 21 and mostly been working retail, I have a 2 year college degree, but nothing special outside of that. I'm most of the way through being hired at the TSA (doing med check then I'm in the hiring pool), after not hearing anything I figured that would be better than the work I'm doing now. I've also considered the National Guard, but not sure if that's worth it if my end goal is to be hired at the FAA. I will probably try to start taking classes to a 4 year degree in a math related field while I am employed at the TSA.

I guess I will also add I also passed everything and am in the waiting list to be hired as an Electrical Apprentice at my local IBEW 48, but this is likely to be a year plus out and ATC would be my first choice.

The lady I talked to did say my scores from the ATSA could be kept for 3 years. Should i retest next year? Or just keep what I have?

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but any other opinions or insight would be awesome.
My main advice would be to retake the ATSA, especially if you scored middle of the road. I applied for the 2017 bid and did ok on the ATSA but no TOL. Applied again for the 2018 bid and retook it, and since I knew exactly what to expect, I did a LOT better and got a TOL this year. Keep in mind there are people in the best qualified band that have yet to receive a TOL, but scoring higher definitely increases your chances.

Edit: Also keep in mind this is a LOOOONG hiring process. I graduated CTI in June of 2017. I'm still waiting on an academy date almost two years later.
 
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Hey all, i found this thread awhile back after looking for some info on the application process. I got referred but never heard anything. I ended up calling one of the numbers listed earlier in this post and the kind lady told me that i had placed pretty middle of the road in band 2? I believe. She also mentioned that they might be taking a few more people soon but I may have misunderstood her. So I'm kind of assuming at this point I will have to try again next year, so I am asking if anyone has any advice they could give that might help me become better qualified.

I'm 21 and mostly been working retail, I have a 2 year college degree, but nothing special outside of that. I'm most of the way through being hired at the TSA (doing med check then I'm in the hiring pool), after not hearing anything I figured that would be better than the work I'm doing now. I've also considered the National Guard, but not sure if that's worth it if my end goal is to be hired at the FAA. I will probably try to start taking classes to a 4 year degree in a math related field while I am employed at the TSA.

I guess I will also add I also passed everything and am in the waiting list to be hired as an Electrical Apprentice at my local IBEW 48, but this is likely to be a year plus out and ATC would be my first choice.

The lady I talked to did say my scores from the ATSA could be kept for 3 years. Should i retest next year? Or just keep what I have?

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but any other opinions or insight would be awesome.
Retake the ATSA, and do better on it. That's about all you can attempt to improve on next time.
 
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Bravo Alpha

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Ok, I wasn't sure what the typical time frame was. It just seems like most people have been hearing something back within 2-4 weeks unless they're hit with a Tier 2. Plus, it sounds like most people who reach out for an update hear something back which has me a bit concerned there's an issue with mine...
7 Weeks since medical and MMPI completed, and no tier 2. I'm just waiting on my medical clearance as well. Just got to be patient.
 

Sunshine

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Hey all, i found this thread awhile back after looking for some info on the application process. I got referred but never heard anything. I ended up calling one of the numbers listed earlier in this post and the kind lady told me that i had placed pretty middle of the road in band 2? I believe. She also mentioned that they might be taking a few more people soon but I may have misunderstood her. So I'm kind of assuming at this point I will have to try again next year, so I am asking if anyone has any advice they could give that might help me become better qualified.

I'm 21 and mostly been working retail, I have a 2 year college degree, but nothing special outside of that. I'm most of the way through being hired at the TSA (doing med check then I'm in the hiring pool), after not hearing anything I figured that would be better than the work I'm doing now. I've also considered the National Guard, but not sure if that's worth it if my end goal is to be hired at the FAA. I will probably try to start taking classes to a 4 year degree in a math related field while I am employed at the TSA.

I guess I will also add I also passed everything and am in the waiting list to be hired as an Electrical Apprentice at my local IBEW 48, but this is likely to be a year plus out and ATC would be my first choice.

The lady I talked to did say my scores from the ATSA could be kept for 3 years. Should i retest next year? Or just keep what I have?

Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but any other opinions or insight would be awesome.
Definitely retake the ATSA. Also purchase one of the practice tests. Some don't think it's necessary but many swear by it. Why not invest a few dollars and take the chance that it'll help you?
 
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ihavewhiskey

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After inquiring for an update, I received a response from RC saying I did not clear the MMPI and need a Tier 2 evaluation. Is there a formal response that’s supposed to be sent out to schedule that or am I supposed to reach out for another update?

This was early April. I don’t want to bug because he did say it was a lengthy process and I am aware this takes a while, but it seems reaching out gets answers.
 
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