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yungsodapapi

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I've called mine, though I'm from the 2017 bid and been waiting Tier 2 eval for over a year. Soooo there's that.
Hey when you say tier 2 eval. Does that mean you met with a FAA contracted psychiatrist already and you’re just waiting to hear back? Sorry for the confusion. I have my appointment in 2 weeks and I’m a senior in college. Just wondering if I might graduate before an FOL.
 

YouAppearToBeOnFire

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Hey when you say tier 2 eval. Does that mean you met with a FAA contracted psychiatrist already and you’re just waiting to hear back? Sorry for the confusion. I have my appointment in 2 weeks and I’m a senior in college. Just wondering if I might graduate before an FOL.
Lol No. I haven't had my eval yet.
 

tunwno

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What other documentation do they ask for, when they send the FOL email besides official transcripts?
 

RedRedApril8

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Good luck !
Real talk though, on a scale of 1 to 10, how hard has it been?
I’ve got about 3 weeks left. I’d say the thing that makes it really tough is the amount of time you have to learn information. Everything builds off of the next and if you don’t understand something, you need to make sure you know it before class the next day or you will be left behind. At the end of the day, everything really comes down to final radar evals and all of the academic tests and even non radar evals are worth a pretty small amount of points.
Also, it seams basics is brought up on here a lot as being a cake walk. It is by far some of the dryest and mind numbing material, but if you don’t study you won’t pass. For the 3+ months I’ve been here it sounds like quite a few classes have lost someone in basics. I don’t think I could rank it on a scale yet, I’ll get back to you in a few weeks lol
 

denver0739

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I would agree with what was said about basics. It is easy information and all the tests so far are multiple choice. My class is about a week and a half away from end of course(the only test that really matters in basics) and honestly, you’ve gotta try and keep the info fresh so some studying will want to be done.
 

bigshotscott

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Good luck !
Real talk though, on a scale of 1 to 10, how hard has it been?
You will have to study each week in basics if you want to pass. You'll get a new book each week of the five weeks you're there and then be able to retain any of the main (and sometimes minor) bullet points from any page. I studied pretty damn hard for the final basics test. Like RedRed said, it is dryyyy stuff but you've got no choice but to cram it into your head.
Crossing the street is fun, you feel sort of important...then they hit you with more mind numbing book material. It won't hurt to get a little head start on learning the map in basics, it helped me. I don't know how others have felt but when starting both non radar and radar I felt quite overwhelmed. The first day the teachers tell you to pull out the boards for non radar and they run a practice problem you're sitting there not knowing wtf is going on. Just stick with it and it will slowly start to make sense. Get together with classmates during non radar to run the problems again that night. Radar is 3-4 weeks long with 46 practice problems. It hasn't come as naturally to me as some of my classmates and during the first couple of weeks they introduce a handful of new topics in EACH new problem. I was sleeping like 11 hours a night easily. The last week they introduce no new topics and it's just you trying to hone your skills for eval's. You have to be on your game when you're working the scope and know your procedures. What are the exact steps if a pilot declares an emergency? What are the exact steps for a bylerly departure? Then the line starts ringing. Etc.

it's quite challenging/10
 
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RedRedApril8

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You will have to study each week in basics if you want to pass. You'll get a new book each week of the five weeks you're there and then be able to retain any of the main (and sometimes minor) bullet points from any page. I studied pretty damn hard for the final basics test. Like RedRed said, it is dryyyy stuff but you've got no choice but to cram it into your head.
Crossing the street is fun, you feel sort of important...then they hit you with more mind numbing book material. It won't hurt to get a little head start on learning the map in basics, it helped me. I don't know how others have felt but when starting both non radar and radar I felt quite overwhelmed. The first day the teachers tell you to pull out the boards for non radar and they run a practice problem you're sitting there not knowing wtf is going on. Just stick with it and it will slowly start to make sense. Get together with classmates during non radar to run the problems again that night. Radar is 3-4 weeks long with 46 practice problems. It hasn't come as naturally to me as some of my classmates and during the first couple of weeks they introduce a handful of new topics in EACH new problem. I was sleeping like 11 hours a night easily. The last week they introduce no new topics and it's just you trying to hone your skills for eval's. You have to be on your game when you're working the scope and know your procedures. What are the exact steps if a pilot declares an emergency? What are the exact steps for a bylerly departure? Then the line starts ringing. Etc.

it's quite challenging/10
Yup that’s pretty much it for anyone wondering. First few weeks of non radar you will feel overwhelmed but have to just stick with it and it usually starts to click for most people a week or so before non radar evals. Not for everyone though, that’s for sure...

Also are you the class that just got there list and evals Monday and Tuesday or the following class?
 

Itsallgucci

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Well good luck guys, my goal
You will have to study each week in basics if you want to pass. You'll get a new book each week of the five weeks you're there and then be able to retain any of the main (and sometimes minor) bullet points from any page. I studied pretty damn hard for the final basics test. Like RedRed said, it is dryyyy stuff but you've got no choice but to cram it into your head.
Crossing the street is fun, you feel sort of important...then they hit you with more mind numbing book material. It won't hurt to get a little head start on learning the map in basics, it helped me. I don't know how others have felt but when starting both non radar and radar I felt quite overwhelmed. The first day the teachers tell you to pull out the boards for non radar and they run a practice problem you're sitting there not knowing wtf is going on. Just stick with it and it will slowly start to make sense. Get together with classmates during non radar to run the problems again that night. Radar is 3-4 weeks long with 46 practice problems. It hasn't come as naturally to me as some of my classmates and during the first couple of weeks they introduce a handful of new topics in EACH new problem. I was sleeping like 11 hours a night easily. The last week they introduce no new topics and it's just you trying to hone your skills for eval's. You have to be on your game when you're working the scope and know your procedures. What are the exact steps if a pilot declares an emergency? What are the exact steps for a bylerly departure? Then the line starts ringing. Etc.

it's quite challenging/10
It sounds like my priority should be to find the smartest person in the class and become best friends with them lol .
StealthChain , you smart any?
 

bigshotscott

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Yup that’s pretty much it for anyone wondering. First few weeks of non radar you will feel overwhelmed but have to just stick with it and it usually starts to click for most people a week or so before non radar evals. Not for everyone though, that’s for sure...

Also are you the class that just got there list and evals Monday and Tuesday or the following class?
Yep that's us, eval's Monday/Tuesday. Not a great list either lol.
 

StealthChain

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Yep that's us, eval's Monday/Tuesday. Not a great list either lol.
Mind sharing your list?

It sounds like my priority should be to find the smartest person in the class and become best friends with them lol .
StealthChain , you smart any?
I like to think I'm at least not dumb haha. I think we will be good as long as we put in some hours studying after class. I'm ready to get there, that's for sure.
 
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