Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-18-ALLSRCE-57792

General 2/3 of applicants gets enroute and 1/3 get terminal. If the FAA is having a hard time filling classes for either route they may offer to let you change. Typically they do not let you ask to change but some times.

Your options out of the Academy:
Enroute - you will be going to a center. Level 10-12 (can someone verify ten is the lowest?)
Terminal - standalone tower, up/down, very very rarely for OTS a standalone tower. Towers and up/downs will be level seven and below, occasionally a level eight. At an up/down you complete the tower portion first and then go back to Oklahoma for the RTF radar portion.
 
General 2/3 of applicants gets enroute and 1/3 get terminal. If the FAA is having a hard time filling classes for either route they may offer to let you change. Typically they do not let you ask to change but some times.

Your options out of the Academy:
Enroute - you will be going to a center. Level 10-12 (can someone verify ten is the lowest?)
Terminal - standalone tower, up/down, very very rarely for OTS a standalone tower. Towers and up/downs will be level seven and below, occasionally a level eight. At an up/down you complete the tower portion first and then go back to Oklahoma for the RTF radar portion.
ZUA is an 8
 
Enroute - you will be going to a center. Level 10-12 (can someone verify ten is the lowest?)
Terminal - standalone tower, up/down, very very rarely for OTS a standalone tower. Towers and up/downs will be level seven and below, occasionally a level eight. At an up/down you complete the tower portion first and then go back to Oklahoma for the RTF radar portion.
ZUA is an 8 and ZSU is a 9.
Every tower class for the most part will have a mix of up/downs and tower-only's to choose from. It's rare for a list to consist of entirely up/downs.
 
Just curious, who does clearance and ground frequencies? Obviously these are only at big airports like LAX and JFK, but I'm just curious who does that? Is it terminal people? Or is it something else entirely?
 
Just curious, who does clearance and ground frequencies? Obviously these are only at big airports like LAX and JFK, but I'm just curious who does that? Is it terminal people? Or is it something else entirely?
Every single airport has clearance delivery/flight data and ground control. Those are the tower controllers.
 
Just curious, who does clearance and ground frequencies? Obviously these are only at big airports like LAX and JFK, but I'm just curious who does that? Is it terminal people? Or is it something else entirely?

Controllers. Busier airports the positions are split but slower facilities ground and clearance are usually combined 24/7.
 
Several applicants last year after getting TOL were able to swap specialty’s. However I believe the TRACON classes were for the N90 hires since everyone I met in those TETRA classes were from NY.
 
Referred. Hoping to get a TOL. But can somebody explain to me what information is on the TOL? Like do they tell you if your terminal or enroute?
 
So if you are chosen for Terminal but you really want TRACON. How do you get TRACON?
Most of the towers are also tracon. meaning you will get rated in the tower then get rated in the tracon. a buddy of mine that i used to work with in the air force, went to the academy, went to his facility, got rated in the tower, then went back to the academy to go through radar school.
 
lol numbers updated 10/17....HR has now qualified 4968 and invited those 4968 to take the atsa. So much for our good odds this time around.

Gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers

Not sure if this is credible but seems consistent with what I have seen from another user who is verified to be in HR.

Would your user friend also know when the TOL’s will be sent out? *wink wink* *nudge nudge*
 
So critique my thinking here folks. Full disclaimer, I know this has room for error/ variables:

4968 qualified candidates took the ATSA. Let’s assume 75% passed(I’d assume less actually did, but for the sake of the exercise we will go high). That’s 3726.
Hiring goal is 1431. Assuming there are no other outside bids(I know there are but don’t have even an approximate number of how many), you would need to be in the top 38%(1431/3726) of scoring to receive an offer.

What all am I not accounting for that would decrease that number, and by how much?
 
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