Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-18-ALLSRCE-57792

[Uninov17]

This kind of information is amazing. You are the best.
Any idea how many of those applicants from the previous bids are tier II?

I’m from the 2017 experience bid that was posted in April last year. I am not tier ll. Seems like there are quite a few of us from that bid that aren’t tier ll. We are just examples of how slow this process can truly be. I had no craziness to disclose and it still took this long. However, I do believe I was in the last batch of TOLs that they gave out before they stopped selecting from that bid. I was cleared 7/6. That was 4 days after the last batch of lists went out. Just my luck. But at least I’m cleared.

1. 4/28/17 submitted application package
2. 2/9/18 TOL
3. 4/27/18 EODS
4. 4/30/18 CIL
5. 5/3/18 MMPI-2 completed
6. 5/6/18 e-qip questionnaire complete
7. 5/7/18 fingerprint and credit check form completed and sent
8. 5/30/18 MedXpress
9. 6/6/18 medical physical
10. 6/7/18 drug test
11. 7/6/18 cleared

 

[Sunshine]

I was wondering the same thing because not everyone keeps meticulous records about doctor appointments and prescriptions especially going back 3 years.

 

[OCHawgy]

Of course, it's best to be transparent about everything, but how accurate do you have to be with this? Like, if someone forgot to include a doctor visit here or there, would they even know?

If you legitimately forget or misinterpret, then so be it. Your signature usually means you've represented yourself "to the best of your knowledge." Most likely they would not find out unless you disclose it or it's tied up in another medical record they receive. And if they find something that you forgot, they will most likely just want you to dig up those records. But if they ever found out you intentionally withheld information, could be grounds for dismissal, loss of your medical clearance, or worse, criminal prosecution.

I think the important thing to remember is that these medical requirements are in place for a reason. There is an age cap, for a reason. All of these reasons have to do with your ability to do your job, whether directly or indirectly, now or later. If you withhold something that would DQ you, and God forbid you get the job and are working in position when a mishap happens, there will be an investigation. I have not been through one of these investigations (knock on wood) but I have heard that they are very thorough. If it is discovered during the investigation that you have a medical condition, that would be DQing AND you withheld said information, you are going to have much bigger problems on your hand than just losing your job.

Just put down what you remember and/or have record of, and that's all you can do. I saw 5 dentists in the last year for an abscess tooth. Hard to remember the details and which ones gave me a prescription and which didn't, so I understand it's hard to remember every doctor visit that isn't recent.

 

[OCHawgy]

I was wondering the same thing because not everyone keeps meticulous records about doctor appointments and prescriptions especially going back 3 years.

Kind of like keeping records for vehicle maintenance... you don't typically do it and don't realize you need them until you try to sell the car. All you have to do is fill out what you remember. You'd most likely remember anything serious enough that they would want to know. I don't think they would really care if you forgot about the ER visit you had two years ago because of the flu and you got an IV bag or two.

 

[MJ]

The medical history is for the examiner to go through with you. Use this how you want, but I've never put any medical visits that weren't related to surgery or medication there were already records of. Don't get caught up on listing every tooth cleaning and checkup.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Will prior experience for this bid still be sent to the school house?

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

Will prior experience for this bid still be sent to the school house?

Yes. It is an off the street bid.

 

[mAiTaInVFRaToRbElOw]

Yes. It is an off the street bid.

Back to the school house with CPC reentrant pay?

 

[Stinger]

Back to the school house with CPC reentrant pay?

Unless I'm mistaken, it'd be AG pay at the Academy, and then your pay would be adjusted into the CPC band of the facility you get.

 

[mAiTaInVFRaToRbElOw]

Unless I'm mistaken, it'd be AG pay at the Academy, and then your pay would be adjusted into the CPC band of the facility you get.

I see, thanks.

 

[TheeThor]

Since there is no BA and less people applied than the previous years, are they expecting to be faster scheduling the ATSA's?

 

[J-one-s]

Since there is no BA and less people applied than the previous years, are they expecting to schedule the ATSA's faster?

I guess it's possible, but I'd be surprised if it happened any sooner than normal(October-ish). They still may need to do a once-over on the applications and I imagine scheduling the ATSA for 6,000 people with PSI requires quite a bit of notice. But mostly, I don't see that happening, because it would require initiative.

 

[pointfivesixty]

Info I've heard:
6,825 total applicants.
2017 had 11,716 applicants, 5,383 were qualified, 4,528 were referred. 3,058 took the ATSA. Hiring goal was 1701 and thus far 1786 have been hired.

Hiring goal for FY19 is 1,431.

5 applicants remain from FY14, 25 from FY15, 452 from FY16 and 445 from FY17.

Just to clarify, from 2017 bid, does the 1786 only include people with FOLs or all TOLs? Like if I haven’t received my FOL yet would I be part of the 1786 or the 445? May seem like a dumb question but thanks for workin with me.

 

[Southern]

Just to clarify, from 2017 bid, does the 1786 only include people with FOLs or all TOLs? Like if I haven’t received my FOL yet would I be part of the 1786 or the 445? May seem like a dumb question but thanks for workin with me.

Did you get a TOL? If so, you're still in and will eventually get an FOL.

 

[MJ]

Hired means getting a paycheck

 

[pointfivesixty]

Did you get a TOL? If so, you're still in and will eventually get an FOL.

Yeah I received a TOL. Had a few bumps in the road so still waitin

 

[TheeThor]

Anyone know if a failed polygraph(or inconclusive, not sure which it ended up being) for the border patrol affects any stage of this hiring process? Like the background investigation?

 

[MJ]

Anyone know if a failed polygraph(or inconclusive, not sure which it ended up being) for the border patrol affects any stage of this hiring process? Like the background investigation?

If it was part of a security clearance, yes.

 

[TheeThor]

It was just done as part of their background investigation during the hiring process. Is that the same as it being done for a security clearance?

 

[MJ]

I don’t know anything about other agencies hiring processes