Do you need 52 weeks as CPC in order to be a temporary Staff Support Specialist?

[Phillytroll69]

Wasting time of fellow controllers who train you is what pisses people off, bro.

Wasting? You got a 20% bonus

 

[slater]

I'm good with that 20%, i prefer my leave approved more so. But just stating the obvious, since forever. Never would I sit down and tell my trainers I plan on bouncing after checking out. Leaving too soon just burns bridges I don't care to burn. But that's just me.

 

[Move78]

Not to steal the thread BUT does anyone know if you can take a SS job and then get to a controller position later at the same facility? Guessing that’s just an ERR but i haven’t heard of anyone doing that. NCEPT ain’t going to get me home

Yes you can use staff to circumvent the release policy. Has to be permanent staff and you’ll lose good time for the time period in which you’re staff. It’ll be up to the ATM

 

[PointSixty5stalker]

Here in Atlanta we had someone do this and was only able to get TMU. Not as bad at a desk job

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

I couldn’t find this answered anywhere.

I believe kombucha23 is correct in that the SSS position can be assigned as additional duties on a "temporary" basis at your current facility, but if there is a bid out on USAJobs for a SSS position marked as "temporary" then I believe the 1 year restriction still applies.

Not to steal the thread BUT does anyone know if you can take a SS job and then get to a controller position later at the same facility? Guessing that’s just an ERR but i haven’t heard of anyone doing that. NCEPT ain’t going to get me home

Absolutely possible, essentially is an ERR without a "losing facility" aspect to it in NCEPT. We just had a SSS do something similar, but was for an OS position instead.

Wasting time of fellow controllers who train you is what pisses people off, bro.

If that pisses someone off, then that person is miserable and will find whatever reason to be and stay miserable.

 

[AS88]

Maybe the schedule, work-life balance, constant union Vs Management BS, missing kids basketball games, missing holidays, and numerous threads on this site and reddit about how shit things are has to do with it?

Here in Atlanta we had someone do this and was only able to get TMU. Not as bad at a desk job

It's weird to me how Radar controllers don't consider that a desk job. You're sitting in a chair, staring at a screen and typing things.

 

[acutetriangles]

I'm good with that 20%, i prefer my leave approved more so. But just stating the obvious, since forever. Never would I sit down and tell my trainers I plan on bouncing after checking out. Leaving too soon just burns bridges I don't care to burn. But that's just me.

How long should one wait before it’s considered burning bridges?

 

[slater]

How long should one wait before it’s considered burning bridges?

52 weeks. Like the bid states.

 

[acutetriangles]

52 weeks. Like the bid states.

Then he can’t leave too soon, right?

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Do what's best for you, your future and those you care about. No one is going to look out for your best interests aside from you in this career, not the agency, not the union and certainly not those who would get salty about you taking a desk or filing an ERR. They got paid to train you, it wasn't some privilege bestowed upon you by them out of the goodness of thier hearts. They weren't doing you a favor. That's toxic controller bullshit, and the workforce is full of it.

What your current coworkers will think of you shouldn't be a consideration in future career moves and improving your life situation. If getting off the boards so you can take the wife out on a Saturday night or make little Timmy's tee ball games or not missing out on social events with your friends because your schedule is shit outweighs the shift premiums, or a few years tacked on at the twilight of your career is less important than the next 25 years of nights weekends and holidays do whats good for you. There's absolutely no shame in that and anyone who says otherwise is an inconsolable prick.

 

[doodii]

Do what's best for you, your future and those you care about. No one is going to look out for your best interests aside from you in this career, not the agency, not the union and certainly not those who would get salty about you taking a desk or filing an ERR. They got paid to train you, it wasn't some privilege bestowed upon you by them out of the goodness of thier hearts. They weren't doing you a favor. That's toxic controller bullshit, and the workforce is full of it.

What your current coworkers will think of you shouldn't be a consideration in future career moves and improving your life situation. If getting off the boards so you can take the wife out on a Saturday night or make little Timmy's tee ball games or not missing out on social events with your friends because your schedule is shit outweighs the shift premiums, or a few years tacked on at the twilight of your career is less important than the next 25 years of nights weekends and holidays do whats good for you. There's absolutely no shame in that and anyone who says otherwise is an inconsolable prick.

Peter always chiming in with the FACTS.

 

[Raise when?]

Maybe to get to a different location or have a schedule he wants that will benefit his life?

The God complex within ATC is pathetic. Why are you so insecure that you talk shit to strangers on the internet because of their job choice?

are you a member of tmu or something?

 

[caprisun]

Apologies if this is a stupid question, but how does one know which facilities have a SS position and which ones don’t?

 

[slater]

Then he can’t leave too soon, right?

The point is moot.

 

[acutetriangles]

The point is moot.

That’s a good way to put the whole take, tbh.

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

Do what's best for you, your future and those you care about. No one is going to look out for your best interests aside from you in this career, not the agency, not the union and certainly not those who would get salty about you taking a desk or filing an ERR. They got paid to train you, it wasn't some privilege bestowed upon you by them out of the goodness of thier hearts. They weren't doing you a favor. That's toxic controller bullshit, and the workforce is full of it.

What your current coworkers will think of you shouldn't be a consideration in future career moves and improving your life situation. If getting off the boards so you can take the wife out on a Saturday night or make little Timmy's tee ball games or not missing out on social events with your friends because your schedule is shit outweighs the shift premiums, or a few years tacked on at the twilight of your career is less important than the next 25 years of nights weekends and holidays do whats good for you. There's absolutely no shame in that and anyone who says otherwise is an inconsolable prick.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Peter always chiming in with the FACTS.

Eh.... just a long held opinion that people who think this job is the end all be all of jobs and it's some privilege to do it, and being a controller makes them less of a nobody cog in the wheel than anyone else in any other fed job is fooling themselves.

 

[MrNoodle]

Wasting time of fellow controllers who train you is what pisses people off, bro.

I love this take, if someone asks me whats wrong with the FAA I would point to this comment. As a ton of people mentioned you are PAID to train people, its part of your job. Could you imagine a worker at jiffy lube saying "I don't do oil changes, its a waste of my time". Maybe if the work environment was full of toxic shitheads the agency wouldnt have people jumping at every staff support/supervisor and DOD gig out there.

being a controller makes them less of a nobody cog in the wheel than anyone else in any other fed job is fooling themselves.

Anyone who doesn't believe this watch someone go medically down, see how fast your spot gets filled with OT and how quick new people come to fill their spot once they retire.

 

[acutetriangles]

I always tell my trainees to ask me before they bid out or try to leave some other way. And I’ll evaluate how badly my feelings will be hurt and then approve/deny their request.

 

[GulfCharlie]

Do what's best for you, your future and those you care about. No one is going to look out for your best interests aside from you in this career, not the agency, not the union and certainly not those who would get salty about you taking a desk or filing an ERR. They got paid to train you, it wasn't some privilege bestowed upon you by them out of the goodness of thier hearts. They weren't doing you a favor. That's toxic controller bullshit, and the workforce is full of it.

What your current coworkers will think of you shouldn't be a consideration in future career moves and improving your life situation. If getting off the boards so you can take the wife out on a Saturday night or make little Timmy's tee ball games or not missing out on social events with your friends because your schedule is shit outweighs the shift premiums, or a few years tacked on at the twilight of your career is less important than the next 25 years of nights weekends and holidays do whats good for you. There's absolutely no shame in that and anyone who says otherwise is an inconsolable prick.

I agree with my comrade. No one is going to look out for your interests but you. If you died tomorrow the staffing work book would be updated by EOD to reflect one less body.