Do you need 52 weeks as CPC in order to be a temporary Staff Support Specialist?

[FlightOfTheShortGuy]

Do what's best for you, your future and those you care about. No one is going to look out for your best interests aside from you in this career, not the agency, not the union and certainly not those who would get salty about you taking a desk or filing an ERR. They got paid to train you, it wasn't some privilege bestowed upon you by them out of the goodness of thier hearts. They weren't doing you a favor. That's toxic controller bullshit, and the workforce is full of it.

What your current coworkers will think of you shouldn't be a consideration in future career moves and improving your life situation. If getting off the boards so you can take the wife out on a Saturday night or make little Timmy's tee ball games or not missing out on social events with your friends because your schedule is shit outweighs the shift premiums, or a few years tacked on at the twilight of your career is less important than the next 25 years of nights weekends and holidays do whats good for you. There's absolutely no shame in that and anyone who says otherwise is an inconsolable prick.

Well said man. I have a multitude of reasons why I think SSS is best for my career but what you stated is the real “good time” to me. Maybe I’ll regret it later in life, I think not, but if the difference in pension is what financially breaks me when I retire I will have a lot more issues than just that.

 

[SolicitSVFR]

Well said man. I have a multitude of reasons why I think SSS is best for my career but what you stated is the real “good time” to me. Maybe I’ll regret it later in life, I think not, but if the difference in pension is what financially breaks me when I retire I will have a lot more issues than just that.

But also consider you will now have to work to MRA(57) with at least 30 years gov service vs any age and 25 years of service. Something to think about

 

[CaptainObvious]

Do what's best for you, your future and those you care about. No one is going to look out for your best interests aside from you in this career, not the agency, not the union and certainly not those who would get salty about you taking a desk or filing an ERR. They got paid to train you, it wasn't some privilege bestowed upon you by them out of the goodness of thier hearts. They weren't doing you a favor. That's toxic controller bullshit, and the workforce is full of it.

What your current coworkers will think of you shouldn't be a consideration in future career moves and improving your life situation. If getting off the boards so you can take the wife out on a Saturday night or make little Timmy's tee ball games or not missing out on social events with your friends because your schedule is shit outweighs the shift premiums, or a few years tacked on at the twilight of your career is less important than the next 25 years of nights weekends and holidays do whats good for you. There's absolutely no shame in that and anyone who says otherwise is an inconsolable prick.

This is amazing.

 

[CaptainObvious]

But also consider you will now have to work to MRA(57) with at least 30 years gov service vs any age and 25 years of service. Something to think about

Is it worth it to avoid the rattler, staffing shortages, avoiding medical treatments etc? I think so. That’s why more and more staff jobs are getting dozens of applications from inside the building much less outside interest

 

[Robert_Boucher]

Apologies if this is a stupid question, but how does one know which facilities have a SS position and which ones don’t?

Maybe SWB but you'd have to have access to it. Maybe Move78 or MJ have the answer.

 

[slater]

It's funny how everyone complains about short staffing, defends 6 day work weeks, but out the same side of thier mouth talks about need for family time while defending a major "cog in the wheel" of malfunction. You do you bro is all I can say. Enjoy that alimony and divorce rampant w FAA controllers.

General responses will be denial, it's not my problem and all the other quick wit responses that sound sweet off the cuff. Don't get mad at me, I'm just the messenger and have seen it go this way since I began in the late 1990's. I'm all for personal choice, but damn.

Just be sure to tell your trainer you plan on leaving after making CPC. Oh yea, you won't. That's right....

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Is it worth it to avoid the rattler, staffing shortages, avoiding medical treatments etc? I think so. That’s why more and more staff jobs are getting dozens of applications from inside the building much less outside interest

This.... it's definitely worth contemplating. 25 years of the prime of your life spent not doing what you want to be doing when you want to be doing it vs. A few years in your 50s. That's a lot of holidays, weekends, evenings, random last minute cheap vacations and so on. Throw in the physical and mental health concerns irregular sleep patterns etc....

Ya the pension is dope, but honestly aside from that this job offers nothing many of my peers outside of atc aren't getting, and in many regards they are doing better.

 

[ajmezz]

It's funny how everyone complains about short staffing, defends 6 day work weeks, but out the same side of thier mouth talks about need for family time while defending a major "cog in the wheel" of malfunction. You do you bro is all I can say. Enjoy that alimony and divorce rampant w FAA controllers.

General responses will be denial, it's not my problem and all the other quick wit responses that sound sweet off the cuff. Don't get mad at me, I'm just the messenger and have seen it go this way since I began in the late 1990's. I'm all for personal choice, but damn.

Just be sure to tell your trainer you plan on leaving after making CPC. Oh yea, you won't. That's right....

All I see is "it's been a shitty toxic environment for me for over 20 years, so it should be for you too.." Call is quits already.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

It's funny how everyone complains about short staffing, defends 6 day work weeks, but out the same side of thier mouth talks about need for family time while defending a major "cog in the wheel" of malfunction. You do you bro is all I can say. Enjoy that alimony and divorce rampant w FAA controllers.

General responses will be denial, it's not my problem and all the other quick wit responses that sound sweet off the cuff. Don't get mad at me, I'm just the messenger and have seen it go this way since I began in the late 1990's. I'm all for personal choice, but damn.

Just be sure to tell your trainer you plan on leaving after making CPC. Oh yea, you won't. That's right....

So should OP be happy for the privilege or embracing the suck?

I'm so confused by the logic here, and why you'd be salty about someone deciding this ain't it for them and moving on if you agree shit has been bad for many years, and has no outlook on getting better, and deciding to not be stuck in a situation that makes many of our peers miserable?

 

[slater]

All I see is "it's been a shitty toxic environment for me for over 20 years, so it should be for you too.." Call is quits already.

Nah dawg. I enjoy talking to planes longer than 52 weeks. ? I said several times don't shoot the messenger, but apparently everyone here is as angry as they pretend to not be.

 

[kombucha23]

Honestly support specialist is such a dope gig if you are really into data and trends. It’s seen as a loser move or whatever, but you can really get deep into some of the data of facilities and try to do your part to make things better. When it’s done well, it’s a full time gig and not at all the slack off position people act like it is.

There’s MOR work, event reports, OSAs, SSRs, compliance verification, training development, briefings, etc. all done every day by SSS/QC, not counting researching rules and orders or accident packages or whatever else crops up.

It takes a different kind of person to do it right and well, but it’s used by losers who don’t want to do any work and it gets exploited as a result.

 

[Railgeek]

Maybe SWB but you'd have to have access to it. Maybe Move78 or MJ have the answer.

The problem with SWB is that you can only see your own facility, or those you have control over. HR sees them all, some SSS sees their own building, etc. They don't want too many fingers in the pie with SWB.

 

[Move78]

Maybe SWB but you'd have to have access to it. Maybe Move78 or MJ have the answer.

Idk where these target numbers are published. They exist.

 

[SharDiNae]

I might as well ask this here since its similar, but is there a difference between a Support specialist and a support manager?

 

[FightingIrish2012]

I might as well ask this here since its similar, but is there a difference between a Support specialist and a support manager?

The support manager manages the specialists at facilities big enough to have a team of them.

 

[Move78]

I might as well ask this here since its similar, but is there a difference between a Support specialist and a support manager?

1s a manager

 

[Logical_Mongoose]

I might as well ask this here since its similar, but is there a difference between a Support specialist and a support manager?

SSM is the OS/OM to the SSS's CPC. Most Support Manager positions now require OS, OM ,or ATM experience to qualify.

 

[Railgeek]

SSM is the OS/OM to the SSS's CPC. Most Support Manager positions now require OS, OM ,or ATM experience to qualify.

The SSM can act as a resource for a single SSS at facilities without a team of them.

 

[Soul_Controller]

This thread turned into a traffic dodger support group.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

And a “I’m a lazy fuck who can’t work a rattler” support group.