Hiring Bid Experienced Bid: FAA-ATO-19-ATCEXP-60073

[Williams3982]

Any DOD people on here get their list? Basically every place for me would be a pay cut even with the save pay. Thinking about asking for somewhere better and declining if they say no. Super disappointed!

DOD here and I declined two so far. Places weren’t even worth the move for me. Just apply for the next one Since you’re clearances will remain valid.

 

[SugarFoot1]

Unless you're a SrA I feel like the majority of us on this prior experience bid will be taking a pay cut. For myself being a 11 year Tech I'll take a significant pay cut initially until CPC but fortunately we have the GI Bill to some what supplement the difference. I got assigned to a level 5 so it hit me much harder than some of these guys getting 6s and 7s but looking at the long term itll be much more beneficial than staying in.

I don’t think he meant active duty. He means DoD civilian controller. I don’t know if any case where leaving the DoD won’t be a pay cut (there are a few that won’t) but it’s rare

 

[HappyController]

On the lists, at the top there’s a column for CIP/AD/COLA pay. What is the AD?

* CIP = Controller Incentive Pay; AD = Affordability Differential; COLA = Cost of Living Adjustment

 

[RomeoTangoRT]

* CIP = Controller Incentive Pay; AD = Affordability Differential; COLA = Cost of Living Adjustment

Okay. I’ll use OGG (Maui) as an example since I was looking at that.

Locality is 18.98% and AD is 10.64% so essentially you are making 29.62% “locality pay”? And if that’s the case, does the AD count towards high-3?

Just trying to make sure I’m understanding everything correctly.

 

[ramfan402402]

DOD here just got my list. I may be in the decline and wait for the next round club too. Though I doubt it gets any better.

 

[SugarFoot1]

DOD here just got my list. I may be in the decline and wait for the next round club too. Though I doubt it gets any better.

Nice to have options for sure

 

[arHuFf69]

How long after you submit the survey will you find out where they’re sending you?

 

[Lemonhead]

How long after you submit the survey will you find out where they’re sending you?

7 days. like the movie.

edit: actually its 7 days from the list being sent out

 

[arHuFf69]

7 days. like the movie.

But with less torture I hope?

 

[Lemonhead]

But with less torture I hope?

more or less

 

[Carolina90]

How long does it take to get the firm offer once you send back your desired start date if you picked one of the three they offered?

 

[Lemonhead]

How long does it take to get the firm offer once you send back your desired start date if you picked one of the three they offered?

Mine was 2 days. YMMV

 

[PrisonMike]

Mine was 2 days. YMMV

It depends on your start date, from what I’ve read.

 

[SugarFoot1]

It depends on your start date, from what I’ve read.

I can verify this. They process them based on whoever chooses the soonest date then they go down the line.

 

[Lemonhead]

^ Yeah and I think it even says that in the email.

 

[BCegiel]

Yup you're right. I have a July 7 start date and got my FOL with the link to the 500 documents to sign on the 28th

 

[HappyController]

Okay. I’ll use OGG (Maui) as an example since I was looking at that.

Locality is 18.98% and AD is 10.64% so essentially you are making 29.62% “locality pay”? And if that’s the case, does the AD count towards high-3?

Just trying to make sure I’m understanding everything correctly.

Don’t think anyone is going to reply to you with an answer. I only knew what AD was because I copied and pasted that from the bottom of my list. Not sure how it all works

 

[BCegiel]

Okay. I’ll use OGG (Maui) as an example since I was looking at that.

Locality is 18.98% and AD is 10.64% so essentially you are making 29.62% “locality pay”? And if that’s the case, does the AD count towards high-3?

Just trying to make sure I’m understanding everything correctly.

Aviation careers or HR would for sure be able to answer how they add the AD factor in so might be worth a call. As for high-3 though, my buddy at Birmingham was telling me it is now high-5 apparently.

 

[Robert_Boucher]

Aviation careers or HR would for sure be able to answer how they add the AD factor in so might be worth a call. As for high-3 though, my buddy at Birmingham was telling me it is now high-5 apparently.

It's high 3 still

 

[MJ]

No differentials are part of retirement calculations