Drewzer said:I’ve never heard of anyone being picked up with a qualified score. Ever. Since the BQ and WQ score bands have been established that is. I’ve never seen it.
Time to make history.
Lol
Hiring Bid FAA-ATO-20-ALLSRCE-65607
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#762 So I hadn't checked for a little while because I didn't expect a response so quickly. I got WQ first time I took it which got me through the academy. I reused it last year and didn't get referred.
I retook it a few weeks ago (I had to restart due to power outage during the test I hope that didn't affect anything) and got qualified, but referred, which is very frustrating because I thought I did well and this isn't my first rodeo with it.
Not sure what to make of it but I guess we'll see what happens. Seems like a lot more people got qualified and not very many WQ? Good luck to everyone.
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#763 kshaky said:
Really interested to see how selections are made in this bid since the 10% rule does not apply. I think the most logical move for the FAA is to only select applicants from Pool 1 and Pool 2 that scored Best Qualified. As I am sure a lot of you know, previously due to the 10% rule, quite a few Pool 1 applicants made it in with less than Best Qualified scores seemingly so that they could meet their hiring numbers (at least from what I saw in the 2019 and 2018 bids).
Is it confirmed that the 10% rule has been taken away?
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#764 I got WQ and referred! Whoop!
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#765 Tmaxx219 said:
Is it confirmed that the 10% rule has been taken away?
Indeed.
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#766 Hopefully this time around I receive a TOL. In the 2018 bid, I scored BQ and no TOL. Used that score for this bid.
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#767 kshaky said:
Indeed.
Dam, that kills my chances (P1 WQ)
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#768 Tmaxx219 said:
Dam, that kills my chances (P1 WQ)
not necessarily. Not a lot of people got the chance to test. A LOT of people’s tests were cancelled (mine included, but I rescheduled and drove 6 hours to take it somewhere else) so it’s a very small applicant pool. Also, not everyone got referred (a handful of plain Qualified’s have said they were not referred that took the test during this window). AND who knows how many BQ’s there are! There might not be many and they’ll have to dip into the WQ band. We just don’t know! It’ll be interesting to see.
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#769 Tmaxx219 said:
Dam, that kills my chances (P1 WQ)
If I had to put money on it, I'd bet you'll get a TOL. No one knows anything though. We just gotta sit back and wait, this bid is weird...
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#770 amo4 said:
(a handful of plain Qualified’s have said they were not referred that took the test during this window).
really? i thought everyone got referred
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#771 dk001 said:
really? i thought everyone got referred
nope. Are you in the CTI facebook group? Or the 2020 bid group on Facebook? There have been a handful of people say they took it and only scored “qualified” and their status shows “not referred”. So it looks like they could’ve only referred enough to fulfill their hiring goal for this year after all since it was a small pool. But we know nothing lol it’s all just speculation. But what we do know is that not everyone was referred. It seems the majority was, but not everyone. So they definitely have a reasoning for referring all BQ’s and WQ’s and then a select amount of Q’s
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#772 I have taken the ATSA 2 times previously and gotten Well Qualified Not Referred Pool 2 and for the previous times I used the practice software to study. This time I did none of prep and felt I didn't do as well on the first half of the test and got Best Qualified Pool 2. I really don't know how it works but I was always under the impression that the ATSA was not weighted test or anything. It would seem like the whole carrying over score thing would get crazy complicated if it was.
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#773 cncer said:
I have taken the ATSA 2 times previously and gotten Well Qualified Not Referred Pool 2 and for the previous times I used the practice software to study. This time I did none of prep and felt I didn't do as well on the first half of the test and got Best Qualified Pool 2. I really don't know how it works but I was always under the impression that the ATSA was not weighted test or anything. It would seem like the whole carrying over score thing would get crazy complicated if it was.
No one knows how it is graded. And grading on these tests tend to change year to year.
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#774 amo4 said:
nope. Are you in the CTI facebook group? Or the 2020 bid group on Facebook? There have been a handful of people say they took it and only scored “qualified” and their status shows “not referred”. So it looks like they could’ve only referred enough to fulfill their hiring goal for this year after all since it was a small pool. But we know nothing lol it’s all just speculation. But what we do know is that not everyone was referred. It seems the majority was, but not everyone. So they definitely have a reasoning for referring all BQ’s and WQ’s and then a select amount of Q’s
What Facebook group are you referring to? I've looked for one and haven't been able to find it, using a bunch of different keywords, including this announcement number
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#775 sean82206 said:
What Facebook group are you referring to? I've looked for one and haven't been able to find it, using a bunch of different keywords, including this announcement number
Edit: Apparently this group is for CTI people only. I didnt see that, sorry
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#776 flypilot said:
Requested to be added. Thank you!!!
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#777 cncer said:
I have taken the ATSA 2 times previously and gotten Well Qualified Not Referred Pool 2 and for the previous times I used the practice software to study. This time I did none of prep and felt I didn't do as well on the first half of the test and got Best Qualified Pool 2. I really don't know how it works but I was always under the impression that the ATSA was not weighted test or anything. It would seem like the whole carrying over score thing would get crazy complicated if it was.
This is similar to what happened to me. Used the prep material in 2019 and got WQ. This time, I did ZERO prep and just grabbed a coffee instead before the test. Got BQ. I do remember nailing every section except for aircraft collision. I gave zero fucks to the mathmatics and maybe got three/four of those right. Had about 10 collisions. I thought I bombed the last two SAT-style questions.
Also pretty sure the personality questions made me seem like a complete douche... but I guess that's what they wanted lol
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#778 Well, I'll hop in here just to provide another data point, P2 BQ referred. Last bid I was P2 Q and was not referred so I retested, and I definitely did better, but not perfect. I wonder if they re-weighted sections that they found to be more relevant. That could explain why some people said their scores stayed the same while others went from Q to BQ using the same results.
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#779 Hey everyone,
So I was a little eager and bored at work this morning so I had some time to compile an Excel spreadsheet of our scores and pools for this bid. I think I got everyone that posted here that were able to test. If you have Excel, you can sort however you want it, but I have it sorted by Pool and then Score. For some people on this forum, I was not able to determine or find what Pool they were considered, so I placed Question Marks in for their Pool, but still recorded what data I knew. Thought this could really help us get a visual of what our scores look like for this bid.
- FAA ATSA Scores Visual.xlsx (11 KB)
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#780 sean82206 said:
Hey everyone,
So I was a little eager and bored at work this morning so I had some time to compile an Excel spreadsheet of our scores and pools for this bid. I think I got everyone that posted here that were able to test. If you have Excel, you can sort however you want it, but I have it sorted by Pool and then Score. For some people on this forum, I was not able to determine or find what Pool they were considered, so I placed Question Marks in for their Pool, but still recorded what data I knew. Thought this could really help us get a visual of what our scores look like for this bid.
Pool 2, Q, Referred. Mad about it haha