Hiring Bid FAA-ATO-22-ATCEXP-80642

[jorgeluis161]

It’s not always highly accurate or the most up to date but simply looking at staffing numbers on the facility .65 page should give you a good indication. If a facility has a 6 month checkout time and is 95% staffed, good chance you’ll be able to get out.

This... Most 4/5 towers release pretty quick via the NCEPT but just remember that you aren't the only one that would be trying to get out. Unfortunately that's how the system is right now

 

[RomeoTangoRT]

This... Most 4/5 towers release pretty quick via the NCEPT but just remember that you aren't the only one that would be trying to get out. Unfortunately that's how the system is right now

It’s a weird game to have to play. Hold out for a relatively desirable location at a low level facility because you know you’ll be there for a minute or bid a low level, quick check out, healthy staffed facility in a less than desirable area, get checked out and bid your dream facility within a year. Short term pain for long term gain vs succumbing to the system.

 

[Zulu_Mike]

Well y’all it’s been a long time coming and I finally got my facility. Headed to Lakefront Airport, New Orleans, LA! It was my #1 choice!

 

[PattyRoyAvs]

Finally got my list

 

[MickWhoopin]

Finally got my list View attachment 8648View attachment 8649

Awesome, any ideas on how you'll rank it?

 

[PattyRoyAvs]

Awesome, any ideas on how you'll rank it?

I ranked em….

Minne
SLC
Helena
Dutches County
Bangor
Morristown
Syracuse
Fort Smith
Tucson
Waterloo

I got offered Minne, but turned it down

 

[ATCzeroMK]

Finally got my list View attachment 8648View attachment 8649
I checked but didn't see, what was your experience level?

 

[PattyRoyAvs]

Level 10 center

 

[ajmezz]

So you got offered your #1 and still turned it down?

 

[PattyRoyAvs]

So you got offered your #1 and still turned it down?

Yup. Had no interest in any of the facilities on there. Just wanted to see what they’d offered me. I understand why that might look weird, but I mainly just applied to see what kind of list I would get with Level 10 enroute experience

 

[jorgeluis161]

Yup. Had no interest in any of the facilities on there. Just wanted to see what they’d offered me. I understand why that might look weird, but I mainly just applied to see what kind of list I would get with Level 10 enroute experience

It was a pretty decent list and the fact that you turned down your number 1 pick.....

 

[JoeController]

I was SUPER jealous of this list until I saw you'd already been at a 10 center lol. A friend of mine had a list like this on a PE bid when he got out of the AF and wound up at Seattle approach.

 

[rpmoore27]

If you weren’t in the military you won’t get d3. Same thing happened to me when I initially got hired on a prior bid without military experience.

Sorry if this was stated or obvious right here. I am prior military with 52 weeks of experience and I just received my FOL and am starting at the AG pay level. So mine should be starting at the D3 level instead?

 

[Acquired Taste]

Sorry if this was stated or obvious right here. I am prior military with 52 weeks of experience and I just received my FOL and am starting at the AG pay level. So mine should be starting at the D3 level instead?

Your pay starts at the bottom of the lowest D band the facility has. If the facility has a D1 band, you'd start at the bottom of that until you get some positions, at which point you'd get raises as your D band increases.

 

[ajmezz]

Sorry if this was stated or obvious right here. I am prior military with 52 weeks of experience and I just received my FOL and am starting at the AG pay level. So mine should be starting at the D3 level instead?

Unless something has changed (which I doubt), if you were hired on the prior exp bid you should be starting at the lowest D band for whatever facility you're going to. I think that's different if you got hired on an ots bid and have to go to the academy first and then d band once you get to facility. Worth reaching out to HR and double checking though.

 

[rpmoore27]

Unless something has changed (which I doubt), if you were hired on the prior exp bid you should be starting at the lowest D band for whatever facility you're going to. I think that's different if you got hired on an ots bid and have to go to the academy first and then d band once you get to facility. Worth reaching out to HR and double checking though.

Okay thanks! Yeah the lowest D band is D3 which is quite a big difference over the AG pay level they said I'll start at on the FOL. I'll reach out to the HR rep to see what's up.

 

[JulietWhiskey0314]

Okay thanks! Yeah the lowest D band is D3 which is quite a big difference over the AG pay level they said I'll start at on the FOL. I'll reach out to the HR rep to see what's up.

Something to keep in mind: your pay will be the lowest D band, but you'll be coded as an "AG" everywhere. So when you do meet the requirements for promotion to D3, you'll end up getting a 6% bump from what you're making at the time since you'll already make equal to or greater than the minimum of the D3 band. Contract article 108 will explain more. So don't get confused when you see "AG" on everything or think the paperwork has an error, you're still technically an "AG" and getting the pay as a D3.

Found this in a different thread on here from a few years back. Seems like you'll get the same pay as D3 but just classified as AG on paperwork for prior exp starting out. Have a look.

 

[JoeController]

Sorry if this was stated or obvious right here. I am prior military with 52 weeks of experience and I just received my FOL and am starting at the AG pay level. So mine should be starting at the D3 level instead?

That's weird. I'm starting at D2 at M03 in a week. Also prior military.

 

[Seymour Nips]

Yessir we actually had a guy go to Pueblo last year from us then resign and come back cause he hated the agency that much.

Tell him to cool it on the Pepsi.

 

[PapaKilo1317]

Tell him to cool it on the Pepsi.

I’ll give you that man drinks 2, 2 liters worth a day