Federal buyout???

[Dr. Rumack]

Controllers and 2101’s are not eligible.

 

[SteveMcCroskey]

Controllers and 2101’s are not eligible.

Surely you're not serious...?

 

[32andBelow]

Controllers and 2101’s are not eligible.

Says who?

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

Sterilize the final. No more skirting under or over the Bravo or Charlie. The final is solely for arrivals.

And what about all the vfr 1200 codes skirting under the finals? I see airliners descend below the Bravo on their own daily... airline pilots don't know where the Bravo shelves are. In fact when I worked in Denver we watched a replay of an airline who descended below the Bravo on a visual and had a VFR 1200 code go ABOVE them outside the Bravo airspace. There is no easy solution.

 

[CoffeeIV]

And what about all the vfr 1200 codes skirting under the finals? I see airliners descend below the Bravo on their own daily... airline pilots don't know where the Bravo shelves are. In fact when I worked in Denver we watched a replay of an airline who descended below the Bravo on a visual and had a VFR 1200 code go ABOVE them outside the Bravo airspace. There is no easy solution.

If the airlines are descending below daily then it likely needs to be changed. I'm also anti general aviation. Common folk are paying taxes so rich people can joy ride in the NAS.

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

If the airlines are descending below daily then it likely needs to be changed. I'm also anti general aviation. Common folk are paying taxes so rich people can joy ride in the NAS.

It takes YEARS to change Bravo airspace.

 

[32andBelow]

 

[MJ]

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“a union”? Is there any better/official statements ?

 

[MJ]

Found this but I don’t have a source

Air traffic controllers were emailed by the Trump administration urging them to quit their jobs and take mass “buyouts” just 24 hours after the D.C. plane crash.

They were among hundreds of thousands of federal workers sent the email at 8.30 p.m. Thursday to push the extraordinary offer by Trump’s aides to get civil servants to quit en masse.

The email dropped almost exactly 24 hours after an Army helicopter crashed into an American Airlines jet as it came into land at Reagan National Airport, killing 67 people. Just one air traffic controller was doing the work of two controllers at the time, early reports have suggested.

Coast Guard investigates aircraft wreckage in Potomac River. The Coast Guard investigates aircraft wreckage on the Potomac River on January 30, 2025 in Washington, DC. Handout/Getty Images “We encourage you to find a job in the private sector as soon as you would like to do so,” stated the email sent by the Office of Personnel Management, The New York Times reported.

“The way to greater American prosperity is encouraging people to move from lower productivity jobs in the public sector to higher productivity jobs in the private sector.”

The message was formatted as “frequently asked questions.” It suggested that by taking the buyout, the workers could immediately get second jobs or vacation at their “dream destination” while still on the government payroll. That advice is contradictory to years old regulations that have prohibited federal employees from picking up second sources of income.

The late Thursday night email follows up on an earlier one which offered federal workers other incentives to abandon their job security, such as eight months of pay if they obliged by Feb. 6.

The Trump administration did not respond to a request for comment by the Daily Beast at time of publication.

The president of the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, Nick Daniels, told the Times that it is “not yet clear” how the resignation program would come into effect.

Daniels added that union workers are “concerned” about the consequences of losing “experienced aviation safety personnel during a universally recognized air traffic controller staffing shortage.”

 

[GroundClutter]

Found this but I don’t have a source

Come on Nick keep up the pressure...

 

[Dr. Rumack]

Says who?

Air traffic controllers were initially offered buyouts and told to consider leaving government

Just a day before a deadly midair collision at Reagan National Airport outside Washington, D.C., employees at the Federal Aviation Administration were sent an offer to resign with eight months’ pay.

apnews.com

 

[n0vemberh0tel]

Air traffic controllers were initially offered buyouts and told to consider leaving government

Just a day before a deadly midair collision at Reagan National Airport outside Washington, D.C., employees at the Federal Aviation Administration were sent an offer to resign with eight months’ pay.

apnews.com

OPM sent the email to ALL federal employees. They did not filter who did or did not receive the email.

It also states that individual agencies may exclude certain positions from being eligible.

FAA will 100% be putting out a memo stating 2152s are ineligible.

Rocheleau just got officially appointed yesterday and has bigger fish to fry right now with DCA and Philly but it’s 100% coming.

 

[32andBelow]

Air traffic controllers were initially offered buyouts and told to consider leaving government

Just a day before a deadly midair collision at Reagan National Airport outside Washington, D.C., employees at the Federal Aviation Administration were sent an offer to resign with eight months’ pay.

apnews.com

That doesn’t say we are exempt

 

[Soul_Controller]

OPM sent the email to ALL federal employees. They did not filter who did or did not receive the email.

It also states that individual agencies may exclude certain positions from being eligible.

FAA will 100% be putting out a memo stating 2152s are ineligible.

Rocheleau just got officially appointed yesterday and has bigger fish to fry right now with DCA and Philly but it’s 100% coming.

First rule of new administrations: don't assume competence

 

[32andBelow]

OPM sent the email to ALL federal employees. They did not filter who did or did not receive the email.

It also states that individual agencies may exclude certain positions from being eligible.

FAA will 100% be putting out a memo stating 2152s are ineligible.

Rocheleau just got officially appointed yesterday and has bigger fish to fry right now with DCA and Philly but it’s 100% coming.

But they haven’t. So until the do we are eligible.

 

[Nothanks]

But they haven’t. So until the do we are eligible.

They have to accept your resignation. They don’t have to pay you for 8 months if they don’t want to. You think you’re going to hold someone to that janky ass email? lol. Go for it

 

[Shikaka]

Screw it let's all take the offer

 

[32andBelow]

They have to accept your resignation. They don’t have to pay you for 8 months if they don’t want to. You think you’re going to hold someone to that janky ass email? lol. Go for it

I think it’s dumb as hell I’m just saying as of this moment we can still take the deal.

 

[Nothanks]

I think it’s dumb as hell I’m just saying as of this moment we can still take the deal.

That’s not accurate and a stupid thing to argue.

It states agencies will determine who is eligible, no one has been told who is yet.

 

[32andBelow]

That’s not accurate and a stupid thing to argue.

It states agencies will determine who is eligible, no one has been told who is yet.

I know that. But people are claiming we are exempt? All I know now is i was sent the offer. So we shouldn’t think the offer that was sent to us isn’t valid? Why send it then