Government Shutdown

[Shikaka]

Per NATCA:

The FAA is working with the DOI to gather the most accurate information, but as a shutdown of this length has never happened before, the information continues to be updated and amended. Below is the most up-to-date information that NATCA has regarding how DOI will process the paychecks missed as a result of the shutdown.

• DOI started generating PP01 on Jan 28 – off-cycle payment to hit on Wednesday (30 Jan) at the earliest.
  • This will be approximately 50% of gross pay (gross pay = standard 72 hours if employee worked on 12/23, otherwise standard 80 hours) vice 60% originally anticipated. DOI increased the amount from 50% to 60% to cover all possible deductions (taxes and benefits).
  • Deposits will be made to employee’s account on record.
  • Employees covered by F&E budget will receive approximately 50% of gross (gross pay = standard 56 hours)
• DOI started generating PP02 on Jan 29. Similar to PP01, employees will receive approximately 50% of gross pay. (gross pay = standard 80 hours). Payment expected to hit on Thursday (Jan 31).
• DOI will generate a third off-cycle payment on Wednesday (30 Jan) for catch-up payments. Payment expected to hit on Friday (Feb 01).
• Anything not caught in first three passes will be caught up in PP03 (Feb 12).
• Premium pays may be delayed until PP03 (Feb 12) or PP04 (Feb 26).
• There will be no Leave and Earning Statements (LES) issued for the three off-cycle payments (PP01, PP02, PP03). Adjustment amounts will likely be noted as lump sums on the PP03 LES. These will be reflected as “advances” in the earning section, and “adjustments” in the deduction section.
• Paycheck withholdings such as allotments and court orders will not be deducted in off-cycle checks. They will be the responsibility of the employee for PP01, PP02 and will restart with PP03.
• Wages are based on when an employee is paid, not when the wages are earned. You will be paid in calendar year/tax year 2019 (as you would have were we not lapsed) and any back pay will be included in your 2019 taxable wages. You can access your 2018 W-2 in www.employeeexpress.gov now.

 

[CF]

Are they going to double up all the deductions we had taken out on the two “checks” they gave us during the shutdown? Because they took some from each of those checks. I also don’t understand why it’s so difficult to process the checks correctly instead of doing this impossible to verify piecemeal approach

Most of the work in paying you is calculating all the crap you have taken out or premiums added. I personally would have been fine with them just doing it the right way and getting paid next week but this is what we get when everyone makes a huge deal about not being paid(it is). They scramble to get everyone paid ASAP and this is the quickest way.

 

[Dontbotherme]

If we don’t get LES forms for pay, how am I supposed to know if my pay is correct? Just trust the agency to ensure multiple holidays, multiple OTs, etc are paid correctly?

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

If we don’t get LES forms for pay, how am I supposed to know if my pay is correct? Just trust the agency to ensure multiple holidays, multiple OTs, etc are paid correctly?

That's where I am at too... There is no way they get this right. I doubt I'll even get paid for the right number of hours. I wish they would have have just done it correctly. A lot of facilities had their timecard person come in four hours a pay period and input everything... It wouldn't have been that hard.

 

[yoboiconnor]

Academy back in session on 2/6 and we will be reviewing for 10 business days. Certain classes might have different timelines

 

[BrocolliRob]

Hopefully hear about some RTF dates soon...

 

[Stinger]

If we don’t get LES forms for pay, how am I supposed to know if my pay is correct? Just trust the agency to ensure multiple holidays, multiple OTs, etc are paid correctly?

You can calculate it yourself if you get all your hours from the LDR within CruSupport.

 

[POINTOUT]

You can calculate it yourself if you get all your hours from the LDR within CruSupport.

How do you do that?

 

[Stinger]

How do you do that?

I haven't done it myself yet, but I know it's in the program somewhere.
CruSupport can be accessed through the top menus of ART. Last time I tried that it didn't open for some reason though.
Or if it's installed on one of the computers you have access to, search for it in the program list. Same username and password as ART. Just go hunting around in that program and see if anything looks right.
Or, ask your supervisor to show you...they should know.

 

[32andBelow]

Withholding 50% is just comically high. My AG check was under 1000

 

[liter a cola]

That's where I am at too... There is no way they get this right. I doubt I'll even get paid for the right number of hours. I wish they would have have just done it correctly. A lot of facilities had their timecard person come in four hours a pay period and input everything... It wouldn't have been that hard.

60% of the time it works every time...

Withholding 50% is just comically high. My AG check was under 1000

My check was short 1000-1100 bucks from what I normally take home.

 

[DankVectorz]

My check was short 1000-1100 bucks from what I normally take home.

It was 50% base pay of an 80 hour week. No ot, no night diff, no ojti, no cic. Just multiply your hourly wage by 80 and divide by 2 and that should be how much you got

 

[32andBelow]

It was 50% base pay of an 80 hour week. No ot, no night diff, no ojti, no cic. Just multiply your hourly wage by 80 and divide by 2 and that should be how much you got

I’ve worked full admin weeks and mine was still 500 less than normal.

 

[OKbusyB]

I’ve worked full admin weeks and mine was still 500 less than normal.

I’m in your same AG boat. It’ll be interesting to see how messed up it will be.

 

[liter a cola]

It was 50% base pay of an 80 hour week. No ot, no night diff, no ojti, no cic. Just multiply your hourly wage by 80 and divide by 2 and that should be how much you got

I understand that, I posted that in the last page or two. What I was saying is their estimate that 40 to 50% of most employees pay is withheld is bullshit unless all of you are maxed PAC and decided to pick the most expensive health / dental vision and such their numbers are way off.

 

[DankVectorz]

I understand that, I posted that in the last page or two. What I was saying is their estimate that 40 to 50% of most employees pay is withheld is bullshit unless all of you are maxed PAC and decided to pick the most expensive health / dental vision and such their numbers are way off.

Ah gotcha misunderstood what you were saying

 

[32andBelow]

So are they gonna adjust this in the third check or we have to wait till we do our taxes in 2020?

 

[rugbydog11]

my 50% is about 200 more than my last bunch of pay checks
looking forward to owing the FAA somehow.

 

[CaptainObvious]

my 50% is about 200 more than my last bunch of pay checks
looking forward to owing the FAA somehow.

How does that make sense? Mines like 700 less

 

[rugbydog11]

How does that make sense? Mines like 700 less

Max TSP, big TSP loan payment. IDK. I would be able to tell ya if I got an LES lol.