Is RTF still pass/pass for current employees?

[gmonie]

When I went to RTF a few years ago it was pass/pass for current employees, but another controller going soon heard a rumor that it is pass/fail now. Is this true? I cant find any info on this anywhere else.

 

[Shikaka]

You're only subject to job jeopardy once per career.

 

[Mike Kilo]

You're only subject to job jeopardy once per career.

Unless you wash out of a second successive facility!

 

[Shikaka]

Unless you wash out of a second successive facility!

Even then it's a "may" we all now that person who has soaked up 3-4 facs before certification or wash.

 

[CF]

Could they theoretically “fail” you but you don’t lose your job you just get washed out?

like you’re expected to pass rtf in order to start training.

 

[Shikaka]

Could they theoretically “fail” you but you don’t lose your job you just get washed out?

like you’re expected to pass rtf in order to start training.

An ATM/FLM could see an RTF failure as a training issue leading towards a training suspension.

 

[BrocolliRob]

I went through RTF this past spring and it was still pass/pass, one change right after I got back though, at least for my facility, you can fail the classroom training if a sup fails you on a simulated run. Not sure if every facility works the same way, but I had 10 simulated runs and 2 evals with a sup after I got back from RTF, and before I worked live traffic.

 

[Dousand24]

I went through RTF this past spring and it was still pass/pass, one change right after I got back though, at least for my facility, you can fail the classroom training if a sup fails you on a simulated run. Not sure if every facility works the same way, but I had 10 simulated runs and 2 evals with a sup after I got back from RTF, and before I worked live traffic.

That’s in the national training order but the graded evals are like the TETRA grade systems with the “+” and “-“ and 70 is passing.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

An ATM/FLM could see an RTF failure as a training issue leading towards a training suspension.

They could use that as a BS excuse toward suspending your training down the road maybe, but finishing RTF with a “unsatisfactory” score (failing) is not supposed to prevent you from starting facility training.

 

[Shikaka]

They could use that as a BS excuse toward suspending your training down the road maybe, but finishing RTF with a “unsatisfactory” score (failing) is not supposed to prevent you from starting facility training.

Hence "training issue leading towards a training suspension"...