New Facility Placement Procedure

[JBabs]

Well this sounds like it blows... graduating mid May, seems like my class will be the first to get this. Anyone have a specific date this begins?

Goes in effect May 15

 

[32andBelow]

Exactly. Right now its great if you graduate top of class. Say 10 ppl pass, you get 20 slots to choose from. Now its gonna be only 10? Irritating.

And it’s not any better for the others. Sounds like it’s just a way to slip in more mandtarories.

 

[sizziano]

Yes, mid may.

MJ can you confirm exactly what this means? Apparently the terminal class that just started was briefed on this new procedure already.

 

[Bart Harley Jarvis]

Starting the academy next Thursday just sitting here like

 

[rbell123]

Alright, my placement day is May 14 so i might just slide in by the skin of my teeth.

 

[Bart Harley Jarvis]

But so pretty much this means more mandatory spots which could be bad or good depending on locations and gives you even more incentive to finish higher up for more flexibility (since there's less flexibility now). Ya? Nah? Kinda?

 

[OKbusyB]

Sooo say a friend has a 5/2 class date. Will they be subject to the new placement procedure, or will the old double the slots procedure still be in place for them?

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

It isn't more mandatory spots. Essentially everything is mandatory. There will only be enough slots as there are people passing the class. I think it is a good move by the FAA. That was the same facilities aren't continually getting passed over. It's still the same benefit to being at the top of your class. If you just barely scrape by you get little to no say in where you go.

 

[sizziano]

It isn't more mandatory spots. Essentially everything is mandatory. There will only be enough slots as there are people passing the class. I think it is a good move by the FAA. That was the same facilities aren't continually getting passed over. It's still the same benefit to being at the top of your class. If you just barely scrape by you get little to no say in where you go.

This is correct. And it's all classes that place after May 15th.

 

[HenryTheAce]

This is exactly the way it was when I went through May 2015.. then they changed it to the double list thing per person shortly after I left... now apparently back to this way.

 

[BrocolliRob]

Woof. This sounds rough. Just looked back at what our list would have been had this happened and shuddered.

 

[Dolan]

Yeah, competition to get out of these bottom 30-50ish facilities is going to be insane. Can you imagine getting ranked last in your terminal class now? Might as well start working on your hardships now...

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

Yeah, competition to get out of these bottom 30-50ish facilities is going to be insane. Can you imagine getting ranked last in your terminal class now? Might as well start working on your hardships now...

Or like everyone else already at that facility you can suck it up, train to succeed, certify, and put in your time. Not everyone, in fact most people, do not get to go where they want to for this first facility. Get your foot in the door, get FAA experience and THEN you can bid out.

 

[Dolan]

Or like everyone else already at that facility you can suck it up, train to succeed, certify, and put in your time. Not everyone, in fact most people, do not get to go where they want to for this first facility. Get your foot in the door, get FAA experience and THEN you can bid out.

That's all the same way that things are now and that part won't change. (Although for certain facilities your only way out is going to be hardships/quitting, but we've had that argument on here before)

What will change is the overall level of satisfaction people have with that first facility and how trying those first years are. If you get to pick from 10 facilities as the last person in a class at least you have some say over your fate. Getting a mandatory ticket to ASE or ACK is going to feel like a prison sentence and that is going to be reflected in the lengths controllers are willing to go to to secure themselves timely transfers.

 

[Fiore]

Or like everyone else already at that facility you can suck it up, train to succeed, certify, and put in your time.

lol, put in your time. every transfer out of my old fac has been the current newest cpc.

 

[JNev]

Why cant they just make more mandatory instead of using less options? Maybe do 40%-50% mandatory instead of 33%? Doesn't punish the top performers (punish is relative of course) and still accomplishes giving the less desirable facilities staffing.

 

[32andBelow]

Why can’t they just hire people to work where they want to live?

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

Why can’t they just hire people to work where they want to live?

Because there would be facilities that would NEVER get anyone.

 

[ajmezz]

It would be much better if they actually used region preference. At least there’s more of a chance to be closer to a more ideal location.

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

It would be much better if they actually used region preference. At least there’s more of a chance to be closer to a more ideal location.

Agree. They used to do state preference as well. The smart people would research which states were short staffed so as to not pick a state that wasn't hiring.