Newark PHL Radar Failure Pt 2.

[inthrewtheoutdor]

Currently happening again. Running 1 in and 1 out.
Report is Tags froze for 30 seconds and then lagged and jumped miles at a time.

 

[inthrewtheoutdor]

2 times now. How can any controller sit down in PHL and be expected to trust this equipment and work any normal rate of traffic ever again.

This is outrageous and reckless. The FAA has absolutely zero care for human lives ripping through the most complex airspace in the world.

 

[inthrewtheoutdor]

Hour prior all JFK tower to TRACON shout lines failed

 

[inthrewtheoutdor]

All towers in N90 airspace also are operating on ESL mode (emergency service level)

 

[inthrewtheoutdor]

..

 

[inthrewtheoutdor]

Restored twice and failed again twice

 

[GulfCharlie]

Restored twice and failed again twice

As callous as this sounds, there is more money in play than lives sadly...

 

[Geeare27]

What an absolute joke

Don't ever let the FAA talk about safety again, it's all bullshit

 

[boots]

2 times now. How can any controller sit down in PHL and be expected to trust this equipment and work any normal rate of traffic ever again.

This is outrageous and reckless. The FAA has absolutely zero care for human lives ripping through the most complex airspace in the world.

I think there’s a better chance lennya21 gets arrested for a stalking charge before an airliner hits

 

[inthrewtheoutdor]

During the move the FAA was unable to have direct feeds from Radar. (Cost, physical inability, etc?) This feed to PHL is like the feed to the towers. Piggy backs out of Westbury.

The lines being run down CANNOT handle the high volume of data being processed. During SRM the FAA denied this potential of exactly what's happening right now.

Separate issue than last time. Both were called out as realistic potential, both denied by the FAA as realistic potential.

Both happened and put lives at risk.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

Currently happening again. Running 1 in and 1 out.
Report is Tags froze for 30 seconds and then lagged and jumped miles at a time.

Why can’t they work though that for a short time? The center radars update every 12 seconds or so, often a mile at a time.

 

[Phillytroll69]

Isn't there somewhere in 7110 that says if you aren't satisfied with equipment do NOT take position...

 

[32andBelow]

Just load up flight radar 24

 

[ManBearPig]

Thanks, Whitaker and Santa!

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

Why can’t they work though that for a short time? The center radars update every 12 seconds or so, often a mile at a time.

You’re joking right?

 

[Phillytroll69]

Why can’t they work though that for a short time? The center radars update every 12 seconds or so, often a mile at a time.

12 seconds is only enough for your mom

 

[32andBelow]

Can you guys really not go to a backup ADSB feed if you lose the radar?

 

[penaltyvectors]

Can you guys really not go to a backup ADSB feed if you lose the radar?

It’s not that the radar site is going out, the entire data stream is failing - so no fusion, but also no single site from a backup radar, no center radars, and no ADSB. It’s the equivalent of pulling all the plugs out from the back of the STARS console.

 

[inthrewtheoutdor]

Operations are back. I hope to god no one is back to running 2.5 mile finals with literal faulty unstable equipment

 

[DankVectorz]

Live look at a EWR scope