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[Homsar]

I can't help but find it funny that the conservatives are getting everything they want from Biden (COVID is a state issue now, back to work gotta keep that economy a booming) and no more evil gov spending on stimmies and expanded unemployment insurance to boot, yet are still upset at the most "radical socialist" president ever, for....reasons.

I mean, take your pick of reasons: general Alzheimer’s behavior, border crisis, inflation, at least one gun control attempt…

 

[Peter Gibbons]

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I mean, take your pick of reasons: general Alzheimer’s behavior, border crisis, inflation, at least one gun control attempt…

I meant more in terms of covid policy, but sure overall I think it's hard to deny so far that the Biden presidency has been as big a failure as the previous administration.

 

[Homsar]

A great example of that accountability I hope comes after November. I don’t have my hopes up, but I want to be pleasantly surprised. These two people testifying need to be fired or charged.

 

[Uglytaco]

So was the federal vax mandate dropped?

 

[Homsar]

So was the federal vax mandate dropped?

Not according to these guys talking, which was posted a day ago.

What exactly is today’s status of the vaccine mandate in the federal space? | Federal News Network

The Supreme Court recently heard arguments on the yes-or-no debate for a federal vaccine mandate.

federalnewsnetwork.com

Great to see that we are mandated to get a vaccine that doesn’t stop us from getting infected and doesn’t do anything to prevent spread if we get infected.

 

[jamisjockey]

So was the federal vax mandate dropped?

Www.google.com?

 

[BPM31694]

Not according to these guys talking, which was posted a day ago.

What exactly is today’s status of the vaccine mandate in the federal space? | Federal News Network

The Supreme Court recently heard arguments on the yes-or-no debate for a federal vaccine mandate.

federalnewsnetwork.com

Great to see that we are mandated to get a vaccine that doesn’t stop us from getting infected and doesn’t do anything to prevent spread if we get infected.

Follow the science. C'mon Cornpop!

 

[32andBelow]

A great example of that accountability I hope comes after November. I don’t have my hopes up, but I want to be pleasantly surprised. These two people testifying need to be fired or charged.

Cancun cruz is a fucking idiot tho

 

[novelist1985]

Yeah, no, it’s a lot more than Biden saying things like that:

Your point is kind of silly, too. Politicians take advice and talking points from agencies and groups under their control and consult, they should absolutely be responsible for spreading misinformation. The Dems didn’t give Trump a pass for his many ridiculous medical comments, the same standard should be applied here.


Medical professionals constantly repeated that the vaccine prevents infection, and then walked that back to “prevents spread more than unvaccinated,” and now that’s being walked back as of Sunday to vaccines not preventing any spread at all. It sounds like you’re trying to dismiss official CDC/medical platforms as “some libs,” when that’s obviously not the case.


It’s a red herring, made by you.



They’ve linked videos of the CDC director saying things on CNN, it isn’t an opinion piece.



You don’t think that’s an important distinction? Why?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/Conditions-contributing-to-deaths-involving-COVID-19-by-age-group-508.xlsx

“For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.”

"The Dems didn’t give Trump a pass for his many ridiculous medical comments, the same standard should be applied here."

K. I don't care. Do to Biden what libs did to Trump. My investment in this fight has nothing to do with defending Biden. I didn't vote for him.

"You don’t think that’s an important distinction? Why?"

Same reason I don't care if someone had cancer when a car crash killed them.

The distinction between "with" and "of" is used by conservatives as implication that these people would be dead anyway, and hence 'nobody is really dying from this, so masks and vaccines and social distancing are just politics'. Well f you.

They died OF Covid, end of story. They are people who would have lived longer if not for Covid.

You seem to have your doubts, which is why I shared about excess mortality in the U.S. 1 million more people have died since the pandemic began OVER what would normally be expected.

Excess mortality tables have been available since early 2021, so the fact that the federalist completely ignores this is a load of shit.

"Medical professionals constantly repeated that the vaccine prevents infection",

LinkS?

"and then walked that back to “prevents spread more than unvaccinated,” and now that’s being walked back as of Sunday to vaccines not preventing any spread at all."

Damn dude, your article is so full of shit that it's no wonder you're confused about what's real. You make the claim that such a thing was walked back over the weekend. "As of Sunday"

The article would certainly confuse you into believing that,

"Over the weekend, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky appeared on numerous news shows and bluntly admitted some big truths that critics of COVID mania have been saying all along."

They sandwich this in afterwards "Another admission of hers from August resurfaced on social media, after months of the media memory-holing it."

Then proceeds to share the details from the August conversation.

However, as recently as last week, data was published countering your claims that it does nothing regarding transmission:

"Effect of Covid-19 Vaccination on Transmission of Alpha and Delta Variants | NEJM"

"Vaccination was associated with a smaller reduction in transmission of the delta variant than of the alpha variant, and the effects of vaccination decreased over time."


Challenge your own biases, dude. Or your hole is only to get deeper.

Here's a freebie though. An article you can trust, is current, and probably is good news to you:

Opinion | Omicron Makes Biden’s Vaccine Mandates Obsolete

There is no evidence so far that vaccines are reducing infections from the fast-spreading variant.

www.wsj.com

 

[Peter Gibbons]

A great example of that accountability I hope comes after November. I don’t have my hopes up, but I want to be pleasantly surprised. These two people testifying need to be fired or charged.

Questions from Ted Cruz grandstanding and pandering three days after he has to apologize to the drooling masses for calling it what it was or risk condemnation from "the base" are laughable and just that...... pandering.

And well yes I would hope the FBI had people in that crowd of lunatics that openly admitted what their intent was on the internet, and in person on video in the days leading up to and at the event. And yes, totally understandable they don't want to burn thier undercovers or ongoing operations, which is surely what would happen if they answered those questions.

Now I agreed with you earlier today don't start getting dumb on me again lol.

 

[Uglytaco]

Questions from Ted Cruz grandstanding and pandering three days after he has to apologize to the drooling masses for calling it what it was or risk condemnation from "the base" are laughable and just that...... pandering.

And well yes I would hope the FBI had people in that crowd of lunatics that openly admitted what their intent was on the internet, and in person on video in the days leading up to and at the event. And yes, totally understandable they don't want to burn thier undercovers or ongoing operations, which is surely what would happen if they answered those questions.

Now I agreed with you earlier today don't start getting dumb on me again lol.

 

[Motodog]

Not according to these guys talking, which was posted a day ago.

What exactly is today’s status of the vaccine mandate in the federal space? | Federal News Network

The Supreme Court recently heard arguments on the yes-or-no debate for a federal vaccine mandate.

federalnewsnetwork.com

Great to see that we are mandated to get a vaccine that doesn’t stop us from getting infected and doesn’t do anything to prevent spread if we get infected.

 

[Billybob]

I meant more in terms of covid policy, but sure overall I think it's hard to deny so far that the Biden presidency has been as big a failure as the previous administration.

Maybe with Covid, Trump was actually putting things together to succeed in what he promised. The whole Covid thing is a joke, Biden had no realistic plan to end it and when he won most republican voters just sighed. We are all experiencing the same reality where basically Covid is uncontrollable and no amount of government intervention or non-intervention is gonna fix it. I’d rather we just give up and let the virus run its course then pretend we can mitigate it.

 

[Homsar]

Cancun cruz is a fucking idiot tho

AOC fleeing NY when they were having a Covid outbreak for a sunny FL vacation, and then catching it herself, is the perfect Dem way to respond to Cruz doing that, by doing something just as bad. ?

Questions from Ted Cruz grandstanding and pandering three days after he has to apologize to the drooling masses for calling it what it was or risk condemnation from "the base" are laughable and just that...... pandering.

I mean, a broken clock is right twice a day, and he’s right for this grilling.

And well yes I would hope the FBI had people in that crowd of lunatics that openly admitted what their intent was on the internet, and in person on video in the days leading up to and at the event. And yes, totally understandable they don't want to burn thier undercovers or ongoing operations, which is surely what would happen if they answered those questions.

Yeah, I think the example Cruz listed of someone actively and loudly inciting a riot is a bit different than an informant or deep-cover agent trying to lay low amongst a group. If the FBI tried to entrap people, they need to be accountable for it. Just look at what’s happening with that hilarious Whitmer kidnapping case for an example of that.

Now I agreed with you earlier today don't start getting dumb on me again lol.

I do my best!

"The Dems didn’t give Trump a pass for his many ridiculous medical comments, the same standard should be applied here."

K. I don't care. Do to Biden what libs did to Trump. My investment in this fight has nothing to do with defending Biden. I didn't vote for him.

You’re trying to dismiss critiquing of a politician for spreading misinformation solely because they’re a politician. I think thats ridiculous.

"You don’t think that’s an important distinction? Why?"

Same reason I don't care if someone had cancer when a car crash killed them.

The distinction between "with" and "of" is used by conservatives as implication that these people would be dead anyway, and hence 'nobody is really dying from this, so masks and vaccines and social distancing are just politics'. Well f you.

Oh look, straw is on sale again!

When policies and peoples lives are being altered based on the perceived threat of a disease, that distinction is absolutely important.

They died OF Covid, end of story. They are people who would have lived longer if not for Covid.

Now I know you’re just living in fantasy land.

In Washington state, for example, a May 2020 report found that the state’s health department was “overreporting COVID-19 cases by up to 13 percent by counting anyone who ‘tests positive for COVID-19 and subsequently dies’ as a coronavirus death.” A subsequent investigation found that Washington health officials appeared to be doing it again in December of the same year.

In Colorado, gunshot victims were also counted among COVID death tallies if the victims had “tested positive for COVID-19 within the last 30 days.” And local authorities in Florida counted a man who died in a motorcycle crash as a COVID victim in July 2020.

You seem to have your doubts, which is why I shared about excess mortality in the U.S. 1 million more people have died since the pandemic began OVER what would normally be expected.

Excess mortality tables have been available since early 2021, so the fact that the federalist completely ignores this is a load of shit.

They don’t ignore it at all.

"Medical professionals constantly repeated that the vaccine prevents infection",

LinkS?

Literally the video in the post lol.

"and then walked that back to “prevents spread more than unvaccinated,” and now that’s being walked back as of Sunday to vaccines not preventing any spread at all."

Damn dude, your article is so full of shit that it's no wonder you're confused about what's real. You make the claim that such a thing was walked back over the weekend. "As of Sunday"

…because that’s when she was interviewed on CNN…

The article would certainly confuse you into believing that,

"Over the weekend, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky appeared on numerous news shows and bluntly admitted some big truths that critics of COVID mania have been saying all along."

They sandwich this in afterwards "Another admission of hers from August resurfaced on social media, after months of the media memory-holing it."

Then proceeds to share the details from the August conversation.

However, as recently as last week, data was published countering your claims that it does nothing regarding transmission:

"Effect of Covid-19 Vaccination on Transmission of Alpha and Delta Variants | NEJM"

"Vaccination was associated with a smaller reduction in transmission of the delta variant than of the alpha variant, and the effects of vaccination decreased over time."

…which is outdated information, based on her own words in the video on Sunday.

Challenge your own biases, dude. Or your hole is only to get deeper.

I’m presenting fact and you’re just pretending it doesn’t exist.

Here's a freebie though. An article you can trust, is current, and probably is good news to you:

Opinion | Omicron Makes Biden’s Vaccine Mandates Obsolete

There is no evidence so far that vaccines are reducing infections from the fast-spreading variant.

www.wsj.com

Yeah, an op-Ed supporting my point about how ridiculous these mandates are. It’s a good piece.

 

[rhombus]

Not according to these guys talking, which was posted a day ago.

What exactly is today’s status of the vaccine mandate in the federal space? | Federal News Network

The Supreme Court recently heard arguments on the yes-or-no debate for a federal vaccine mandate.

federalnewsnetwork.com

Great to see that we are mandated to get a vaccine that doesn’t stop us from getting infected and doesn’t do anything to prevent spread if we get infected.

Holy hyperbole Batman!

Vaccinated people with breakthrough COVID infections had lower viral loads

A UCLA study of 12,000 health care workers found infected individuals who were unvaccinated shed more viral particles.

newsroom.ucla.edu

 

[Smitty]

hey ya'll i just came out of a coma. was roleplaying and got poked in the bum and triggered from some childhood stuff, passed out hit my head on the side of the tub and just came to. are the 2 weeks to stop the spread over yet!? have we built back better!?

p.s. RIP Dexter Morgan

 

[Phillytroll69]

Wait how are there still unvaccinated people that need to be tested?

 

[Homsar]

Holy hyperbole Batman!

Vaccinated people with breakthrough COVID infections had lower viral loads

A UCLA study of 12,000 health care workers found infected individuals who were unvaccinated shed more viral particles.

newsroom.ucla.edu

An almost two month old study? I’ll stick with what the director of the CDC said two days ago, that’s a bit more up to date.

 

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[Logical_Mongoose]

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