Shoot The Breeze

[GulfCharlie]

I loved that movie.

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

Sorry guys had to lock the Training thread again. Being a mod is thankless work but it’s for the best.

“It ain’t much, but it’s honest work.”

 

[PushingTin]

The Leftovers was a really cool & trippy show, & the soundtrack is haunting.

 

[COWTOWN]

That’s the same TP used in ATC facilities

^Not in level 12's and core 30's

 

[DankVectorz]

^Not in level 12's and core 30's

We get bidets like civilized people. No smearing our poo around like you minor league savages.

 

[Mike Kilo]

For all you privatization supporters, here is a sneak peek at how things would be going for us right now, being run by an airline heavy board.......

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/delta-seeks-to-cut-pilots-minimum-pay-to-avoid-furloughs-for-a-year.html

 

[jdatc]

For all you privatization supporters, here is a sneak peek at how things would be going for us right now, being run by an airline heavy board.......

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/delta-seeks-to-cut-pilots-minimum-pay-to-avoid-furloughs-for-a-year.html

Yeah, but last year they got some shared profits.... Not that we would ever see that!

Ed Bastian with Delta pilots, Profit Sharing 2019

news.delta.com

 

[PushingTin]

"I will not wear someone else's fear."

 

[ATCJoe85]

"I will not wear someone else's fear."

This is why I drive 100mph, ignore "road closed" signs, skip my R&I's, and take a swig of whiskey before plugging in: all in a day's work.

Ain't nobody gonna control me.

 

[FightingIrish2012]

For all you privatization supporters, here is a sneak peek at how things would be going for us right now, being run by an airline heavy board.......

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/17/delta-seeks-to-cut-pilots-minimum-pay-to-avoid-furloughs-for-a-year.html

Privatization will be the only way you ever see true improvements in R&D, NCEPT, hiring, manager talent, etc.... Rinaldi explained many times how NATCA and the front line controllers would not be taken advantage of a airlines heavy board. It’s unlikely to happen but it would be for the best.

 

[32andBelow]

Privatization will be the only way you ever see true improvements in R&D, NCEPT, hiring, manager talent, etc.... Rinaldi explained many times how NATCA and the front line controllers would not be taken advantage of a airlines heavy board. It’s unlikely to happen but it would be for the best.

Lmfao. All of us trainees would have gotten fucked crushed

 

[Mike Kilo]

Privatization will be the only way you ever see true improvements in R&D, NCEPT, hiring, manager talent, etc.... Rinaldi explained many times how NATCA and the front line controllers would not be taken advantage of a airlines heavy board. It’s unlikely to happen but it would be for the best.

I will agree that privatization “could” be the best thing to happen to controllers. But there is no way it would be created in a manner that helped us. Yes it would carry over our pay and benefits to start it there is no guarantee it wouldn’t change after that “contract”. Right now to cut our pay needs an act of Congress. Privatize us and it take a majority of how many again? 12?
He can explain all he wants, but there is no way the board wouldn’t be airline heavy. The positions that aren’t a direct airline rep would fill up with airline industry people.

 

[32andBelow]

I will agree that privatization “could” be the best thing to happen to controllers. But there is no way it would be created in a manner that helped us. Yes it would carry over our pay and benefits to start it there is no guarantee it wouldn’t change after that “contract”. Right now to cut our pay needs an act of Congress. Privatize us and it take a majority of how many again? 12?
He can explain all he wants, but there is no way the board wouldn’t be airline heavy. The positions that aren’t a direct airline rep would fill up with airline industry people.

Also we’re literally national security with the military. Sorry BALLS01 can’t help you today delta says we gotta get all the CRJs in first

 

[PushingTin]

Privatization will be the only way you ever see true improvements in R&D, NCEPT, hiring, manager talent, etc.... Rinaldi explained many times how NATCA and the front line controllers would not be taken advantage of a airlines heavy board. It’s unlikely to happen but it would be for the best.

I watched a Sammy Gravano interview last night. There was a time when he controlled many of the unions in NYC.

do the mafia have influence on NATCA too?

 

[GulfCharlie]

Privatization will be the only way you ever see true improvements in R&D, NCEPT, hiring, manager talent, etc.... Rinaldi explained many times how NATCA and the front line controllers would not be taken advantage of a airlines heavy board. It’s unlikely to happen but it would be for the best.

This is akin to giving the fox a key to the hen house. Hell will freeze over before I trust the airlines to do what is right and not take advantage of the situation. I will be a capitalist until the day I die, but not expecting the airlines to prioritise profit to line their own pockets at our expense is equivalent to me selling beach front property in the Ural Mountains.

 

[GulfCharlie]

I watched a Sammy Gravano interview last night. There was a time when he controlled many of the unions in NYC.

do the mafia have influence on NATCA too?

You might need to explain these NYC references for other people ?. My grandmother, God rest her soul, had vivid memories of John Gotti strolling around in public with balls of steel.

 

[PushingTin]

You might need to explain these NYC references for other people ?. My grandmother, God test her soul, had vivid memories of John Gotti strolling around in public with balls of steel.

Gotti single handedly destroyed hundreds of years of La Cosa Nostra (going back to Siciliy/fleeing Mussolini) w his hubris. The leader of a secret society can not also be a media darling who poses for the camera and signs autographs.

 

[GulfCharlie]

Gotti single handedly destroyed hundreds of years of La Cosa Nostra (going back to Siciliy/fleeing Mussolini) w his hubris. The leader of a secret society can not also be a media darling who poses for the camera and signs autographs.

Agreed, but that New York City ego brother... ?

 

[PushingTin]

Agreed, but that New York City ego brother... ?

If i really thought they had influence on NATCA... i wouldnt criticize NATCA

 

[32andBelow]

If i really thought they had influence on NATCA... i wouldnt criticize NATCA

Is that why there was a horse head in my bed last week?