"This facility is a country club"

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This thread and the one where the guy keeps asking if he can get JAX out of the academy are the most cancerous things I've seen in a while. Can we just lock this shit and move on? Isn't it close enough to the next NCEPT to where our collective depression means we get along for a week?
 

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This thread and the one where the guy keeps asking if he can get JAX out of the academy are the most cancerous things I've seen in a while. Can we just lock this shit and move on? Isn't it close enough to the next NCEPT to where our collective depression means we get along for a week?
Country Club propaganda is a legit topic. Don't hate cuz some upjumped facrep got his panties in a bunch!



MAF is my first facility. Ive been here a little over 3 years now and think its been pretty good starting place overall. Sure we have grumpy controllers here and there (who doesn't) and staffing is pretty low at the moment, but we did just let 4 people go on NCEPT and had 2 controllers promoted to supervisors. Its my understanding that some facilities have yet to release anyone on NCEPT. Weve had pretty good influx of trainees recently, most of which are training on their last or second to last position now so hopefully the staffing aspect will come back soon. As for the training and traffic we seems to get a pretty good mix of everything. Some busy days, some slow. Intersecting runways, good military traffic during the week with BE40/T38/C5/TEX2's practicing and also pretty good GA traffic with the oil field workers going in an out. Cost of living is on the expensive side but local NATCA has reworked the positions so that D2 pay starts after certifying on GC instead of LC to help and have more plans in the works. Yeah most of us are working 6 day weeks at the moment and yes some people cant wait to leave. We also just had a couple controllers reitre who spent most of their career at MAF. But hey, welcome to the FAA.

So how's the NATCA local?


 

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This thread and the one where the guy keeps asking if he can get JAX out of the academy are the most cancerous things I've seen in a while. Can we just lock this shit and move on? Isn't it close enough to the next NCEPT to where our collective depression means we get along for a week?
Dude calm down... It's winter and traffic is slower than usual and the pot stirring has been weak AF at work... Let me enjoy this moment.
 

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Why do lifers at almost every facility claim their facility is a country club? Even little shitty undesirable places that no one that didn't literally grow up there would want to go to. Its very basic. I think it is unhealthy to fear change to the point where you are pretending your facility is as good as it gets; just because you have become institutionalized somewhere. I feel sorry for the people who work at one place for 30+ years naively believing they've found paradise, and arrogantly thinking they have the greatest job in the world just because they get paid every two weeks and are comfortable in their zombie routine. Learning new things and meeting new people is healthy. The cake is usually a lie!


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I am a lifer at the ZNY country club. Shame on me for not seeing the world as a lifer trainee
 

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Dude calm down... It's winter and traffic is slower than usual and the pot stirring has been weak AF at work... Let me enjoy this moment.
I'm all for shit posting when its fun but people in this thread are getting super serious and it's a buzz kill.
 

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I'm all for shit posting when its fun but people in this thread are getting super serious and it's a buzz kill.
Then don't partake.... I honestly believe that would solve 99 percent of everyone's problems / political issues.

I see things I don't like all the time and just roll my eyes and keep moving along...

I'm not a mod but I'm guessing there is at least five thousand other threads on here.
 

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Then don't partake.... I honestly believe that would solve 99 percent of everyone's problems / political issues.

I see things I don't like all the time and just roll my eyes and keep moving along...

I'm not a mod but I'm guessing there is at least five thousand other threads on here.
I have to keep up with Foogy though. So I go where the posts are. I may have overreacted but that was a lot of drama for even this place.
 

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Never got to meet you MJ, you left not to long before I got to MAF I think. You'd be surprised man, a lot of that stuff has changed now. Got rid of some of those positions and the pay scale has changed.
which is the point of the wiki.. to update it with current information. so get to updating :)
 

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I have to keep up with Foogy though. So I go where the posts are. I may have overreacted but that was a lot of drama for even this place.
It's all good man... I've been a firm believer in fight club for seniority.

I figured it would squash these intra-facility issues and would also probably lower or health insurance rates due to all of us hitting the gym to gain an advantage on others.
 

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Bu there is also a decade long tradition of low level up/downs with god complex establishment senior controllers and a ATM/Fac Rep combo who are essentially the same person, and not in a good collaboration way, and training programs at those places can be abysmal.
Yup. The 6 up/down I started at years ago and escaped before NCEPT blocked developmental transfers finally inched into a >60% training success rate in the last few months. It was a nightmare.
 

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Hi AB19. I want you to know that I'm only here because this is open for anyone on the internet to see and I've gotten multiple notifications from people, some in our facility some not, about your posts and I'd be remiss if I let you openly talk trash about me and your fellow coworkers unchecked. May I be the first to remind you that about 3 months ago we fought and won the ability to restructure our pay scale so that trainees earn their raises much sooner than they have in the past. It's a complete lie that "everyone will tell you to shut the fuck up if you bitch about not making any money on AG pay." Every single person who has come through MAF in the past 10 years has had to go through the same problem and everyone sympathizes. We've been fighting hard to get greater and better training opportunities for all of our trainees. All of our CPCs are eligible to train and they do so 6 days per week, even some of our supervisors will throw themselves into the rotation and train to meet our goals. It's supremely disrespectful to imply that we don't care, especially after how hard we've fought for you in your personal training career.

Let this serve as a reminder that ATC is a small community and there's no escaping your reputation, especially when you post openly and proudly on the internet about how you hate your facility and your coworkers. Best of luck at RTF!

Sincerely,
Your NATCA Rep
I would just like to say -- on my 16th beer -- in mid June in the year of our lord 2020.... that this post was one of the greatest moments in P65 history, and give it its due. Rarely do you get to see the true heart of darkness so raw. This is one thing that covid can not ever ruin. One perfect moment can never be repeated, only remembered!


p.s. Also i hereby add STT & ARB to the unofficial list of country clubs.
 

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I would just like to say -- on my 16th beer -- in mid June in the year of our lord 2020.... that this post was one of the greatest moments in P65 history, and give it its due. Rarely do you get to see the true heart of darkness so raw. This is one thing that covid can not ever ruin. One perfect moment can never be repeated, only remembered!


p.s. Also i hereby add STT & ARB to the unofficial list of country clubs.
When was this. This is like the protests. All the trainees are yelling out for help!!! and all the authority is saying. Back in line!
 

Josephml21

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I would just like to say -- on my 16th beer -- in mid June in the year of our lord 2020.... that this post was one of the greatest moments in P65 history, and give it its due. Rarely do you get to see the true heart of darkness so raw. This is one thing that covid can not ever ruin. One perfect moment can never be repeated, only remembered!


p.s. Also i hereby add STT & ARB to the unofficial list of country clubs.
We need to drink together...
 

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I would just like to say -- on my 16th beer -- in mid June in the year of our lord 2020.... that this post was one of the greatest moments in P65 history, and give it its due. Rarely do you get to see the true heart of darkness so raw. This is one thing that covid can not ever ruin. One perfect moment can never be repeated, only remembered!


p.s. Also i hereby add STT & ARB to the unofficial list of country clubs.
That is great, it might be the most iconic post on here, and it once again speaks to the importance of not revealing your specific information on here, that’s what separates us from the savages on “the landline”. I’m glad AB19 didn’t let it break him though. That guy has 250 posts and runs his mouth all the time still. A crack back by the Fac Rep even at a tiny facility often prompts a public apology and then voluntarily deleting your account, AB19 is keeping it all real still.
 

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I’m glad AB19 didn’t let it break him though. That guy has 250 posts and runs his mouth all the time still. A crack back by the Fac Rep even at a tiny facility often prompts a public apology and then voluntarily deleting your account, AB19 is keeping it all real still.
yo FightingIrish2012 , HAs all this quarantining given you any epiphanies on new country clubs that should be recognized, or fake ass ones that need to be called to the carpet!?


meanwhile 4 months later.... AB19 still be like

 
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