I would love to pick and choose what is considered a legitimate crime as well. Would save me a lot of pain.Wouldn't it be cool if there was an actual and legitimate crime prior to the arrest...
I would love to pick and choose what is considered a legitimate crime as well. Would save me a lot of pain.Wouldn't it be cool if there was an actual and legitimate crime prior to the arrest...
I would love to pick and choose what is considered a legitimate crime as well. Would save me a lot of pain.
and did what? Sleep in their car? Stop acting like he went careeening down the highway on the wrong side of the road.This person knew better and did it anyway.
Yeah, just email your Regional Flight Surgeon, they can help you out.Does anyone know if it's a valid hardship if I have a drinking problem and need to transfer to somewhere with softer laws on this
and did what? Sleep in their car? Stop acting like he went careeening down the highway on the wrong side of the road.
OP, get a lawyer and you have a good chance of getting it dismissed. If it does get dismissed, get in touch with your HR rep. You might be able to get reinstated or at least not banned from applying again if you want to.
Can I sleep in my RV drunk? Do the keys need not be in it? DUI for sleeping car is asinine. No crime is committed until you drive the car.
You must be fun to work with...That’s asinine? The dude was in the ACADEMY and got in trouble for alcohol.
No wonder shit like LV tower happens...
I'm not holier then thou. I have a DUI from when I was 17. The difference is, I was a kid. This person has been an adult and legally able to drink. My DUI was also 11 years ago. Back then uber, lyft, and everything else didn't exist... cabs had to be scheduled. Add in I was below the legal limit for adults.
So no, I don't have sympathy. This person knew better and did it anyway.
That’s asinine? The dude was in the ACADEMY and got in trouble for alcohol.
No wonder shit like LV tower happens...
kinda lame they fire you just for being charged with something...what happen to innocent until proven guilty.
How hard is it to not put yourself in this position for 1 year while on probation when the agency tells you straight up on day one and so does the union?
Hey, not looking for sympathy at all. Just giving another reminder to the people that will be there after me. I take responsibility for my actions. Paid $2300 for bond and just paid another $5000 for a lawyer. Learn from my experience!!!!!!!!!
Can I sleep in my RV drunk? Do the keys need not be in it? DUI for sleeping car is asinine. No crime is committed until you drive the car.
My way of justifying it is that he never drove under the influence. And if it’s dismissed they can reinstate you. You don’t lose your medical permanently over a charge, it can be reinstated as soon as you show them the charge was dismissed. I know because it happened to me (with a TOL not at the academy)Your way of justifying this is because he didn’t kill someone. Isn’t the point of instances such as this to serve as a deterrent when it comes to alcohol and automobiles?
Also, how’s he going to get reinstated? They’re gonna pull his medical and he’ll be denied for years simply because of being charge and the recency of when this occurred.
Theres nothing cool about kicking a man while he's down. What a sick twisted mentality. These posts are callous, demented, and borderline sociopathic. Happiness can only exist in acceptance.
I agree. I hate the lack of due process its terrible... but they have you by the balls on probation.
Meh. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Bummer dude. The good thing is there are a million other things to do in this world. OFC its a gut punch to lose your seat in the FAA but there are silver linings to be found in everything (like now you wont be entitled, sedentary, ambitionless, and die young like so many ATCers). All the roads we have to walk are winding, if not the destination wouldn't be worth it anyway. Besides, there is a certain satisfaction in a comeback story, regardless of how recklessly indifferent some of the holier than thou message board snark is. Grind away and get after it! Godspeed brother
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Agree that it shouldn't* be a crime, but it is and the world is sometimes upside down.
Thanks means a lotTheres nothing cool about kicking a man while he's down. What a sick twisted mentality. These posts are callous, demented, and borderline sociopathic. Happiness can only exist in acceptance.
I agree. I hate the lack of due process its terrible... but they have you by the balls on probation.
Meh. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Bummer dude. The good thing is there are a million other things to do in this world. OFC its a gut punch to lose your seat in the FAA but there are silver linings to be found in everything (like now you wont be entitled, sedentary, ambitionless, and die young like so many ATCers). All the roads we have to walk are winding, if not the destination wouldn't be worth it anyway. Besides, there is a certain satisfaction in a comeback story, regardless of how recklessly indifferent some of the holier than thou message board snark is. Grind away and get after it! Godspeed brother
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Agree that it shouldn't* be a crime, but it is and the world is sometimes upside down.
My way of justifying it is that he never drove under the influence. And if it’s dismissed they can reinstate you. You don’t lose your medical permanently over a charge, it can be reinstated as soon as you show them the charge was dismissed. I know because it happened to me (with a TOL not at the academy)
Theres nothing cool about kicking a man while he's down. What a sick twisted mentality. These posts are callous, demented, and borderline sociopathic. Happiness can only exist in acceptance.
I agree. I hate the lack of due process its terrible... but they have you by the balls on probation.
Meh. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Bummer dude. The good thing is there are a million other things to do in this world. OFC its a gut punch to lose your seat in the FAA but there are silver linings to be found in everything (like now you wont be entitled, sedentary, ambitionless, and die young like so many ATCers). All the roads we have to walk are winding, if not the destination wouldn't be worth it anyway. Besides, there is a certain satisfaction in a comeback story, regardless of how recklessly indifferent some of the holier than thou message board snark is. Grind away and get after it! Godspeed brother
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Agree that it shouldn't* be a crime, but it is and the world is sometimes upside down.
He came on here to literally say that your ATC career is more important than a few drinks. If the FAA deems he is not able to be an AC than that is between them. You are pointing out things that everyone already knows. “DUI’s are bad” no crap, people are trying to be positive because more than one of us have made mistakes (like you when you were 17).Kicking him while he’s down?
1) This person was well aware of the consequences regarding alcohol involved incidents.
2) They came on a public ATC forum and admitted to an alcohol related crime.
DUI being excessive? Sure. Public intoxication would get the same results.
In a career where alcohol abuse is rampant, you really want someone who can’t even keep shit straight through the academy?