Training hold

[RissaRoo]

They would definitely start with shutting down the academy and laying off people there first.

I figured. I hope it doesn’t come down to that. Waited 2 years to get in and then being laid off would blow.

 

[32andBelow]

They would definitely start with shutting down the academy and laying off people there first.

The contract says they have to shut down the academy first. Which is why I think the rif talk isn’t true.

 

[CF]

Just to further speculate, I wonder if all this had anything to do with the potential for a shutdown in a few weeks. Seems odd they want everyone back just over a week before the CR is set to expire. Maybe the agency said anyone’s who’s on EA going into a shutdown will just be laid off or something.

You can’t just lay people off indiscriminately. Contract requires notice from the agency and for them to negotiate the terms.

 

[Stinger]

Stinger thinks they will be recalled

I'm basing that off how much my district wants everybody back. I'm not at an enroute facility, so the thought process and inner workings at the facilities that the leadership really cares about, I'm clueless about.
The FAA big players honestly doesn't care about anyone not at a center or big tracon. Even some of the Core 30 airports are an afterthought.

 

[November Golf]

Found this from a poster on reddit recently. not sure how much merit it has, but figured it would be worth posting here

"A friend used to work at headquarters and still has contacts there, he said that the higher ups (senior leadership level and higher) don’t give a fuck about Covid anymore. They just don’t want to hear about it and don’t even want to hear it’s a problem anymore. Take this for what it’s worth"

 

[CF]

Found this from a poster on reddit recently. not sure how much merit it has, but figured it would be worth posting here

"A friend used to work at headquarters and still has contacts there, he said that the higher ups (senior leadership level and higher) don’t give a fuck about Covid anymore. They just don’t want to hear about it and don’t even want to hear it’s a problem anymore. Take this for what it’s worth"

This shouldn’t be that big of a surprise. The administrator and deputy administrator are both trump appointees.

 

[32andBelow]

This shouldn’t be that big of a surprise. The administrator and deputy administrator are both trump appointees.

They care enough to do atc zero cleanings 5 days after a positive case

 

[ClearanceClarence]

This shouldn’t be that big of a surprise. The administrator and deputy administrator are both trump appointees.

*who are probably both pissed that they’re about to lose their jobs.

 

[CF]

They care enough to do atc zero cleanings 5 days after a positive case

Natca would have them by the balls for hazard pay if they didn’t. Which with how much they are cleaning it might be worth it to just give it to us now lol.

 

[32andBelow]

Natca would have them by the balls for hazard pay if they didn’t. Which with how much they are cleaning it might be worth it to just give it to us now lol.

They’ve prolly spent a year of hazard pay at my facility

 

[Horny4Vectors]

“Congratulations Joe, oh by the way, 20% of your already short staffed ATC workforce was let go. Kbyeeee!”

 

[November Golf]

Personally it does sound like a scare tactic to get everyone back in, would be strange to fire everyone knowing the gaps they will have years to cone

 

[32andBelow]

Personally it does sound like a scare tactic to get everyone back in, would be strange to fire everyone knowing the gaps they will have years to cone

They realized their Harvard map was way to restrictive.

 

[November Golf]

They realized their Harvard map was way to restrictive.

bingo

Surely retirement packages, furloughs will be offered before a RIF

 

[32andBelow]

Surely retirement packages, furloughs will be offered before a RIF

The rif is such fake news. Why would a funded federal agency fire people? It doesn’t have to like turn a profit

 

[FigureEights]

Anybody know of any waivers that have been approved for an EA with no certs? I’m literally the only person in training at my facility but our district denied it.

 

[FL747]

I'm basing that off how much my district wants everybody back. I'm not at an enroute facility, so the thought process and inner workings at the facilities that the leadership really cares about, I'm clueless about.
The FAA big players honestly doesn't care about anyone not at a center or big tracon. Even some of the Core 30 airports are an afterthought.

Not to worry, couldn't possibly hold it against you if it doesn't pan out. At this point, we're preparing ourselves for the likelihood that she'll be home until they bring in the new hires - and starting from scratch. Anything sooner than that will be a welcome surprise.

As long as the paychecks keep coming and she has the job at the end of it, it's frustrating but nothing like the situation so many others have found themselves in.

 

[Spaceforce]

They realized their Harvard map was way to restrictive.

I totally think this is true. Think about it, When cases were going down NATCA and FAA thought the spike in cases was over and we were in a downward trend. Came up with this brilliant plan and now realized, we are all screwed and we can’t continue to go atc-0 day after day. They tell us to stay home and don’t go anywhere, fear monger us that it has lasting effects and could play a part in our medical later in our career, and then push UNUM...

 

[Phillytroll69]

Any phone calls of interest today

 

[Saltier]

anyone who doesn't think RIFs or furloughs have been legitimacy discussed is delusional at this point.