32andBelow
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No enroute grad will ever recommend MLU ???
I'd probably walk away from the job if offered that list
Come to Duluth! We would love to have you.
Who is that!?except the salty controller there
Went right over my head. Lolyou missed my point. There is no training to be had - so how can they be a quick checkout ? In this day in age, go somewhere you’re willing to spend your whole career. If they ever even get to train which at this point I doubt.
Helena all day.
Went right over my head. Lol
We all know this is temporary though. So let’s not get into doomsday scenarios.
Sure! Have the class vote when they first show up. If you vote yes to contracting the 6 and below facilities the bottom half of the class is terminated. If you vote no you get this list.This thread is why facilities should contract. Look at everyone saying how bad they are for whatever reason they say it: training, location, career movement feasibility etc. If people don’t want to go to these facilities right at the outset and will have a legitimate problem staying at them for a lengthy amount of time even though they say they would because they will work anywhere. save the tax payer money and let the contract underpay people at these facilities, which many of them are not that busy. And for the very small percentage of the workforce willing to go to those places and stay there, unfortunately your voice will get drowned out by the much larger percentage of people willing to go else where or make big $$$ at other larger facilities then retire in those other places and go home after their 25 year career.
Sure! Have the class vote when they first show up. If you vote yes to contracting the 6 and below facilities the bottom half of the class is terminated. If you vote no you get this list.
Pretty sure I know how that vote is going.....and don’t tell me the FAA will hire the same amount of controllers.
Shut upMLU.
They do not hire the amount of people they need lol. We have a controller shortage. So no, the faa would cut hiring way back citing all the closed facility movement instead. What happens to those people when they wash? I guess fuck em because you think their facility is pointless. Who cares if they have 15 years of service. I would still take any job posting to get in the FAA. Worst case after eight years you can start throwing around the preferential consideration BS and try for Guam with rights anywhere with a vacancy.many of the people on this thread are currently in the field though and shows even after being placed they don’t want to go to places because they know even more info than they did previously.
Also, if you have less facilities to send people to of course you’ll hire less people, but why doesn’t that concern us, who are already in the field? Would they not hire the amount of people they need? They already hire the amount of people they need.
They already hire less than the amount of people they need... hasn't that been the union's line since 2011 or so? And it seems to be playing out, with the current staffing average at only 81% and the projected average when everyone gets trained is 92%. You would hope the projected number would be significantly north of 100% to account for future retirements.They already hire the amount of people they need.
They already hire less than the amount of people they need... hasn't that been the union's line since 2011 or so? And it seems to be playing out, with the current staffing average at only 81% and the projected average when everyone gets trained is 92%. You would hope the projected number would be significantly north of 100% to account for future retirements.
I get that contracting out is conceptually antithesis to a labor union, and I understand that expecting the FAA to do the common-sense thing is a fool's errand. But looking at it now, we have two problems: 1) there are a bunch of undesirable low-level towers in undesirable BFE towns that FAA controllers don't want to work in, and 2) there aren't enough FAA controllers to staff up all the facilities. Contracting out the lower levels could help with both. Could.