Where does seniority begin? FAA / NATCA

[32andBelow]

Well obviously leave and day off bidding would be based on national ranking. However, I’m getting conflicting answers on the transfer rankings. Hypothetical situation:

Person 1 has been NATCA member for 5 years but at the facility for 2 years. Person 2 has been a NATCA member for 3 years and at the facility for 3 years. Who gets higher priority for transfer? (All other tangibles aside) Does it go to the controller with higher NATCA seniority or the controller with higher facility seniority?

It goes to the person that is going to a facility that has the numbers to take people

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

Seniority (currently) has nothing to do with transferring...

 

[RomeoTangoRT]

It goes to the person that is going to a facility that has the numbers to take people

Haha of course that’s why I said all other tangibles aside but I understand there are a multitude of tangibles that matter and play into effect. Was just trying to find a definitive answer regarding seniority.

Seniority (currently) has nothing to do with transferring...

Thank you. What I’m looking for lol

 

[ATC_av8er]

Thank you. What I’m looking for lol

Correct. Your seniority transfers with you.

 

[vectorwagon]

Correct. Your seniority transfers with you.

That’s not what he was asking

 

[RomeoTangoRT]

ALL tangibles aside, who gets transfer priority, NATCA seniority or facility seniority?

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

ALL tangibles aside, who gets transfer priority, NATCA seniority or facility seniority?

Seniority literally has nothing to do with transferring.

 

[Stinger]

ALL tangibles aside, who gets transfer priority, NATCA seniority or facility seniority?

It doesn't matter....doesn't even factor in.
Maybe for determining who gets released first...like 8 months after selection someone is released, then 12 months after selection the other one gets released, the ATM could use natca seniority if wanted, but there's no process or rules about it that I'm aware of.

 

[Shikaka]

ALL tangibles aside, who gets transfer priority, NATCA seniority or facility seniority?

Neither has anything to do with transfers...

 

[PrisonMike]

Neither has anything to do with transfers...
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He’s not asking about transfers.

He wants to know if he would have seniority over someone else for being NATCA, but coming from a contract tower situation.

 

[Shikaka]

MatthewMateo if he doesn't mean transfer then I would suggest a different word.

 

[PrisonMike]

MatthewMateo if he doesn't mean transfer then I would suggest a different word.View attachment 2499

lol shit

I'm the asshole.

 

[CF]

lol shit

I'm the asshole.

Forgiveness is easy when you admit you're wrong

 

[Mike Kilo]

Assuming NCEPT selections, they are released based on selection order. So the person selected by the higher priority facility will have first release as that facility was able to select first. If two people are selected by the same facility from the same facility I believe they give priority to whoever had the paperwork in the longest.

 

[RomeoTangoRT]

Thanks guys. I realize now the tangibles are the only thing that matter lol

 

[Shikaka]