StealthChain
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Active clearance from military or previous bid? My understanding is that even with an active clearance we will have to go through the clearance again?
Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-17-ALLSRCE-53474
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Active clearance from military or previous bid? My understanding is that even with an active clearance we will have to go through the clearance again?
Jessika Joy
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Active from military. Did not have to redo clearance process since mine was TS already. Can't guarantee the same for everyone, just giving my personal experience.
StealthChain
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Which is what I have been told.
I am in the same boat as far as clearances go, hopefully I will have the same luck as you.
Jessika Joy
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As soon as I got my security POCs contact info, I asked her about already having a clearance and that’s when I received the email from her stating I didn’t need to go through it again so you might want to try that if and when you get to that point.
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Thanks for the tip.
Question for you. I realize that a final selection will be made of the 2500 or so candidates that passed the ATSA (55%). I also understand that the final selections will receive a TOL letter via e-mail sometime in the next two months or so. In reading the forums, it appears that no notification whatsoever will be sent out to the 600 or so candidates not receiving a TOL. Why is this the case? Couldn't the non-selected be notified via e-mail in the same fashion? Waiting 2, or 3, or 4 months with no word is a dreary outlook. Seems to me a courtesy e-mail could be sent to all candidates whether it's good news or bad. Don't leave us hanging out there 2-3 months from now.
DL0509
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One thing you should know about the FAA is that logic isn't involved in anything they do. Seriously tho for the majority of people that were hired the average time from application to their facility is at least a year more like a year and a half. Also there are a handful of people in HR that handle the TOLs, FOLs, for new hires and possibly controllers in that region so expect to wait during every step of the process. They aren't going to waste their time letting hundreds of people know via email they didn't get the job.
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Yeah just to show you how big of a crap shoot the timeline is. I applied to the same bid and was finished with the academy before your initial class date.
GulfBravoPapa
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Technically they can pull from one bid for years.... So if they emailed all the initially not selected then those applications would be trash and they wouldn't be able to further pull from that bid. By leaving everyone as referred until just before a new bid opens, they can always hire more from the previous bid.
So 2500 passed? WHere did those numbers come out?? I thought I read they were taking 700 or so from each pool...
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Took the words out of my mouth. Last bid was no exception, you will hear of people getting TOL's weeks, sometimes months after others. As surprising as it sounds, people turn down TOL's, miss deadlines, don't respond, etc. They will pull additional people from the bid to cover these vacant spots. If they sent out 'not selected' emails, it's closing the door on further selections. You will typically see the 'not selected' emails come out just prior or just following a new bid.
Makes sense I guess.......to a degree. But it will begin to get worrisome, very worrisome should I say, around the first of March, if no word has reached the old e-mail box. I wish there was a date certain where the FAA declared that all selections had been notified. It would put a little finality to a long process for a lot of people.
GulfBravoPapa
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Don't hold your life up for this bid. Continue in school, get another job, go on a vacation... Don't just sit around and refresh your email. Whatever you were doing before you applied... Keep doing it!
DL0509
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+1 for what GulfPB said. You shouldnt change anything in your day to day life unless you have a class date. If your current job is set to expire then, find another job. Take the advice that current controllers give as we have all been through the process.
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I took the ATSA last year and got referred. No TOL though
On 6/14/2017 I got an email notifying me that I wasn't selected, and that there was another bid coming up.
So they will tell you, just 3+ months after you've already figured it out yourself...
It means you passed the ATSA, and now hope that you get a TOL!
