Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-18-ALLSRCE-57792

[BillyBob]

Hey everyone, welcome back to the program of “who wants an FOL?” Stay tuned for more waiting, false hopes, and endless email refreshing!

Nothing I want more than a big, throbbing, thick, FIRM offer letter ?

 

[jballen004 Tubadude2]

Nothing I want more than a big, throbbing, thick, FIRM offer letter ?

 

[WaterToGo]

I just called the FAA HR and she told out of the 3 bands (best-qualified, well-qualified, and qualified), I was in qualified. I guess I'll see ya'll non-TOLs next bid ?

 

[HanZobro]

3 bands now eh?

 

[MagioX1]

I just called the FAA HR and she told out of the 3 bands (best-qualified, well-qualified, and qualified), I was in qualified. I guess I'll see ya'll non-TOLs next bid ?

Did you get a chance to ask her what "best qualified" meant?

 

[WaterToGo]

Did you get a chance to ask her what "best qualified" meant?

Oh man, i forgot. Maybe I'll call tomorrow and see. Its probably 3 bands from 70-79, 80-89, and 90+. But it would be interesting if it was percentile based.

 

[yngwie]

I also just called HR and was told I'm in band 1 - best qualified. But here I am with no TOL. What the shit.

 

[yngwie]

Oh man, i forgot. Maybe I'll call tomorrow and see. Its probably 3 bands from 70-79, 80-89, and 90+. But it would be interesting if it was percentile based.

I asked just now when I called. They said they don't put a number to it so they can't tell me what each band means.

 

[KEEPER4560]

I asked just now when I called. They said they don't put a number to it so they can't tell me what each band means.

Just best to keep playing the game and try again next bid. I was trying since 2014 and I finally got my shot with the 2017 bid. No sense in trying to speculate what it all means.

 

[Chris54]

Anyone heard anything from POC TH for N90/NY TRACON?

Curious to know if it’s just my app taking a long time or if NY is just slower than the rest.
I completed MMPI early Feb and everything else back in December :/

I haven’t tried to make contact, just wanna let them do their job but so much uncertainty is a bit unsettling... I suddenly regret all my working abroad experience, definitely working against me right now for the clearance...

(Btw appreciate the contributions from everyone here, been following for months, first time posting)

 

[KEEPER4560]

Anyone heard anything from POC TH for N90/NY TRACON?

Curious to know if it’s just my app taking a long time or if NY is just slower than the rest.
I completed MMPI early Feb and everything else back in December :/

I haven’t tried to make contact, just wanna let them do their job but so much uncertainty is a bit unsettling... I suddenly regret all my working abroad experience, definitely working against me right now for the clearance...

(Btw appreciate the contributions from everyone here, been following for months, first time posting)

It can be a very long process. Mine was pretty quick, but even still the MMPI is associated with your medical and it took me a few months from MMPI completion to knowing that I was medically cleared. I’ve known people that had to wait 6mo-1yr before an FOL was sent.

Reaching out and asking for an update isn’t a big deal. It is your career and your job. If you’re curious then send an email to your POC. They’re there to help.

 

[ArcherX]

Just got done with my background phone interview. They just wanted to make sure I'm not a terrorist and that a past employer is saying I had a different job title than what I put in the form. Just had to give my story for that. Other than that, I think I'm clear and free. Still have my class date for 4/9.

 

[Gab1120]

Lemme know if you hear back from TH! I've been trying to get a hold of her, too

I just called her and she answered. She told me they where waiting on a clearance letter that once they got that the would call me. She estimated that one more week.

 

[RDO]

Any of the Tier 2 crew received any updates?

 

[MagioX1]

Just best to keep playing the game and try again next bid. I was trying since 2014 and I finally got my shot with the 2017 bid. No sense in trying to speculate what it all means.

Did you recycle your scores or did you retake the test each year?

 

[ogthebear]

I also just called HR and was told I'm in band 1 - best qualified. But here I am with no TOL. What the shit.

I'm also in Band 1 with no TOL.

 

[KEEPER4560]

Did you recycle your scores or did you retake the test each year?

I always opted to retake the test. I know of a few people who decided to keep their old scores and they ended up not getting TOLs. Odds are if your score wasn’t ‘good’ enough last time I have a hard time thinking it’ll be sufficient the next round.

 

[ClearanceClarence]

I always opted to retake the test. I know of a few people who decided to keep their old scores and they ended up not getting TOLs. Odds are if your score wasn’t ‘good’ enough last time I have a hard time thinking it’ll be sufficient the next round.

I opted to recycle scores from 2017 for the 2018 bid and ended up with a TOL. Statistics definitely isn't my strong point, but it's tough to know whether re-taking will increase your odds or not. If they used your highest score, then certainly it is worth re-taking, but I believe when it comes to the ATSA, they use your most recent score. Not to say anyone would do worse their second time taking the exam, but if it were to happen, you'd be stuck with a lower score. It's all relative anyways based on what the average scores from the whole hiring pool for any given bid. For instance, if you got a "87" on one bid, but the average score was 92, you likely would not receive a TOL. But then for the next bid if the average happens to be an 85 and you recycle your 87, your odds have increased. It all pretty much seems like a roll of the dice.

 

[KEEPER4560]

I opted to recycle scores from 2017 for the 2018 bid and ended up with a TOL. Statistics definitely isn't my strong point, but it's tough to know whether re-taking will increase your odds or not. If they used your highest score, then certainly it is worth re-taking, but I believe when it comes to the ATSA, they use your most recent score. Not to say anyone would do worse their second time taking the exam, but if it were to happen, you'd be stuck with a lower score. It's all relative anyways based on what the average scores from the whole hiring pool for any given bid. For instance, if you got a "87" on one bid, but the average score was 92, you likely would not receive a TOL. But then for the next bid if the average happens to be an 85 and you recycle your 87, your odds have increased. It all pretty much seems like a roll of the dice.

You’re absolutely right. Really a roll of the dice at the end of the day and of course nobody knows the method.

 

[Sunshine]

Don’t worry about it too much. Easier said than done but its actually a really easy day. Did mine in like 45 mins.

MPPI took me 3 hours and I felt I was moving right along with the questions. I don't understand how anyone could get through it so fast. I was shocked at how long it took after reading on here that others did it in one hour or less.