Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-18-ALLSRCE-57792

Received a thank you email. Did anyone else take their ATSA and have it go down for maintenance during the test? Mine did, but I’m very happy a maintenance break didn’t destroy my chances.
Yeah, my test went down, and I had to retake it. I was forced to take the test at a different location as well. At least I had the opportunity to take it twice, I suppose.
 
Not sure how they’ve decided who to send the TOL’s to, but I personally decided to use my passing score from 2017 for this bid even though I did not get picked up for the original bid I had taken the ATSA for and I did receive a TOL on 12/21. I’m wondering if maybe they altered the test from 2017-2018 so my score beat out the new average and I got lucky.

This is the most surprising post in this entire thread honestly.
 
This is the most surprising post in this entire thread honestly.
I’m honestly quite surprised too! I’ve been applying for the past few years and only ever had my status change to referred with no TOL. Maybe applying multiple years in a row gave me more leeway with my score?
 
I’m honestly quite surprised too! I’ve been applying for the past few years and only ever had my status change to referred with no TOL. Maybe applying multiple years in a row gave me more leeway with my score?
That HAS to be it, it is the most logical reasoning.. how many times have you applied before? Lol
 
I’m honestly quite surprised too! I’ve been applying for the past few years and only ever had my status change to referred with no TOL. Maybe applying multiple years in a row gave me more leeway with my score?

If anything, that lends some credence to the half-joking suggestion that the scores this time around were much lower than previous bids. Ignoring Band 2 (70-79%) scores, if you got a TOL it means your score was higher than everyone in your Pool who didn't get one.
 
So, is there any varifiable fact that they have two bands for the ATSA scores? I’ve heard a lot of rumors but haven’t seen any proof, so to speak.
 
You mean upsetting? How the hell is this thing graded??!!!!!????

For some this is def upsetting lol, I retook the test after passing last panel and got a TOL before the shutdown. But makes me question both how well people must have done last panel, or how awful people did this panel lol
 
For some this is def upsetting lol, I retook the test after passing last panel and got a TOL before the shutdown. But makes me question both how well people must have done last panel, or how awful people did this panel lol

since it's your second time, you definitely scored higher. how many collisions did you have? how did you do the logic questions without pen and paper?
 
I felt like I bombed the collisions portion. I honestly cannot remember how many collided on the first part without the math, but it had to be at least 6. The second part I don't think I had any collisions, but I also just started pressing a random button for the math to just get it off my screen so I could watch the planes with my full attention. I did not think the logic questions were that bad. They all had a bit of erroneous information that could be ignored. Every other part I felt I did well on. The statement boxes where we had to choose more like or least like felt shitty to me as well. This was my first and only possible attempt, so I'm hoping I can make it through to the academy and not have wasted a TOL spot.
 
I felt like I bombed the collisions portion. I honestly cannot remember how many collided on the first part without the math, but it had to be at least 6. The second part I don't think I had any collisions, but I also just started pressing a random button for the math to just get it off my screen so I could watch the planes with my full attention. I did not think the logic questions were that bad. They all had a bit of erroneous information that could be ignored. Every other part I felt I did well on. The statement boxes where we had to choose more like or least like felt shitty to me as well. This was my first and only possible attempt, so I'm hoping I can make it through to the academy and not have wasted a TOL spot.

I think honestly the collisions were just something most people couldn't plan for, especially with the math. I didn't know until after the fact that you could purchase the test prep program, I just read through the forum where the sections of the test were explained. When taking the ATSA, I spent a lot of time on the practice parts of the test before starting the actual section, I think thats a beneficial part since it gives you a feel for the speed right before you start. Overall, I tried my best on the collision/math part, maybe answered 75% of the math in the time allotted (correctly, idk lol), and maybe had 2-3 collisions at most through all the sections if that.
 
I just used the provided information on this website as far as prepping for the test. I didn't want to go near the atc test prep since people were saying it was off on certain things, and the practice runs before each section on the actual test was pretty sufficient.
 
I just used the provided information on this website as far as prepping for the test. I didn't want to go near the atc test prep since people were saying it was off on certain things, and the practice runs before each section on the actual test was pretty sufficient.

Yeah, I hear ya. I've read a lot of stories of people using the software and being blindsided. I guess depending on your age, you can just take the real test, if you don't get selected, you can think of it as your practice test and retake it when they open a new bid.

Question for whoever has an answer: has the FAA ever opened the specific N90 bid to everyone, including those outside the 50 mile radius? I was considering applying for that one if they repost it but the requirement was within 50 miles before, wasn't sure if it has ever been lifted and obviously I'm not interested in lying about my address ;)
 
I think honestly the collisions were just something most people couldn't plan for, especially with the math. I didn't know until after the fact that you could purchase the test prep program, I just read through the forum where the sections of the test were explained. When taking the ATSA, I spent a lot of time on the practice parts of the test before starting the actual section, I think thats a beneficial part since it gives you a feel for the speed right before you start. Overall, I tried my best on the collision/math part, maybe answered 75% of the math in the time allotted (correctly, idk lol), and maybe had 2-3 collisions at most through all the sections if that.
Duty priority— prevent the collisions.. worry about the math second. If you look back on the test, some of the math problems were pretty ridiculous. They’re there to throw you off. Separate the targets.
 
I really screwed up on the deductive reasoning questions on my second time taking the test. Frustrating because I know I did great on that section the first time I took it, for the N90 bid. Just brainfarted and had a lot more of the sequence questions. I hope that bid that was supposed to be in January gets posted soon.
 
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