Carter's Funeral January 9th

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It's been going around that January 9th will be a double pay day due to Jimmy Carter's funeral. What's everyone hearing?
 
It's been going around that January 9th will be a double pay day due to Jimmy Carter's funeral. What's everyone hearing?
I don't think anything official has been issued yet, but based on previous scenarios, it is common practice to treat presidential funerals as a federal holiday. This was from HW's death:



Holiday Premium Pay
Q8. What pay do employees receive for working during their regularly scheduled basic (i.e., nonovertime) hours on the National Day of Mourning for President George H. W. Bush?


A8. An employee who performs any work during his or her regularly scheduled basic (i.e., nonovertime) tour of duty on the National Day of Mourning for President George H. W. Bush (or an applicable in-lieu-of holiday) generally receives holiday premium pay under 5 U.S.C. 5546(b) in addition to his or her regular pay. Employees assigned to work on December 5th during their regularly scheduled tour of duty are entitled to a minimum of 2 hours of holiday premium pay.
 
You've gotten a 40% increase since 2017 and are outpacing almost everyone else in the aviation industry. If you were an actual.member you'd already know that
I'm not Mr. When, but personally my gross pay has gone up 120% since then. Of which I can credit the work of Rinaldi to the tune of ~9.6% and that of Santa/Daniels <0.5% (since it doesn't take effort/skill to not negotiate contracts, and OJTI pay is minimal).

Recent AA FA contract... negotiated by the union (I.E, they did work), was 20% immediate, additional retroactive pay, and future increases amounting to more than 12%.

Even if you could convince me our pay has kept up with other unionized industries, I'm still not dumb enough to credit our union for it, or to be convinced our union leadership works for members like they do.
 
Why is everyone shocked a union is powerless when they can't strike
Well, the first thing I got to see when I joined was that Red book appendix showing the increases from 2010-2012. I was pretty confident we wouldn't have gotten that without the union.

I think we'd have some power if we had leadership instead of elected stooges.
 
Well, the first thing I got to see when I joined was that Red book appendix showing the increases from 2010-2012. I was pretty confident we wouldn't have gotten that without the union.

I think we'd have some power if we had leadership instead of elected stooges.
Sure but the raises everyone wants only comes because those unions have the ability to threaten a strike, we are never getting anything more than five percent with the inability to strike. I mean that's not even on NATCA, we'd never be able to strike, NATCA or not, federal employees or contracted
 
Sure but the raises everyone wants only comes because those unions have the ability to threaten a strike, we are never getting anything more than five percent with the inability to strike. I mean that's not even on NATCA, we'd never be able to strike, NATCA or not, federal employees or contracted
I still want to see the effort.

I know shit about being in union leadership, and am as uninvolved as it gets, but even I could've gone into a room and gotten the contract extended. Maybe I'm a sucker for not trying to take that path for an extra 100K with no 6 day workweeks.

20%-30% is lofty and maybe impossible. If the union started somewhere and landed on upping the 1.6 to 3% or 5%, that'd at least show some initiative.
 
Sure but the raises everyone wants only comes because those unions have the ability to threaten a strike, we are never getting anything more than five percent with the inability to strike. I mean that's not even on NATCA, we'd never be able to strike, NATCA or not, federal employees or contracted

If NATCA had any balls, they would advocate for an Italian strike (work-to-rule)... every controller does EXACTLY what their job requires. No more, no less. Following every single rule and procedure to the letter is a de facto strike and would have massive implications. It's a way to show the impact of our labor without engaging in an outright strike. Passive aggressive? Yes. Effective? Perhaps.

Imagine getting reprimanded for doing everything precisely as the book intends....
 
If NATCA had any balls, they would advocate for an Italian strike (work-to-rule)... every controller does EXACTLY what their job requires. No more, no less. Following every single rule and procedure to the letter is a de facto strike and would have massive implications. It's a way to show the impact of our labor without engaging in an outright strike. Passive aggressive? Yes. Effective? Perhaps.

Imagine getting reprimanded for doing everything precisely as the book intends....

"Delta 123, Atlanta Tower, I'll have a landing clearance for you as soon as I read you these NOTAMS. Let's see.... "lighted crane 7.8 miles southwest of the airport at 14' AGL... lighted crane 8.2 miles southwest of the airport at 19' AGL... lighted crane 8.5 miles south of the airport at 18' AGL.... what's that? Going around? Bummer."
 
Do we have to derail every single thread???
I get that people are butt hurt, but I absolutely agree with this.

Can we please keep the bitching to the threads dedicated to bitching?... And can y'all please help me figure out when to schedule my COVID vaccine to not miss double pay days and get my two days of admin, god damn it!?🥸
 
This holiday is right up in transition season so double check your shit or leave requests if you want to get the double time.
 
Well, the first thing I got to see when I joined was that Red book appendix showing the increases from 2010-2012. I was pretty confident we wouldn't have gotten that without the union.

I think we'd have some power if we had leadership instead of elected stooges.
Well it's natca evangelism whats region x? Spreading wider diluted the message
 
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