My class passed 6/16. having lost 1 earlier in basics because he was a piece of shit, and the second just up and left like a day or two after the map test. The evals aren't too crazy, it's just nerves really get to you. With all due respect, you're better off getting advice from students that have passed the En Route course, but what I would absolutely recommend, is that if you do plan on attending the academy in the future, come check out the academy by actually working here as an RPO.If you don't mind me asking, how did someone as experienced as you washout? Are evals that difficult?
I wish I saw it coming, I probably would of pulled that.
I only needed a minimum of 41 to pass.
After the CIL are they going to give you a list of facilities and then bypass the academy? It would suck to have to go back.
Lmao, as long as you're in, you're set.Yeah, prior exp bids hire directly to facility based on your previous air traffic experience. My HR POC said I'll be getting a list based on those results when the CIL is finished and the clearances are issued, so no joke, I'm probably going to end up getting something like CPR or FNT, but whatever - I'll take lead poisoning if it means getting my foot in the door lmao
I just dont have any desire to work in a tower. It just doesnt seem nearly as fun. Granted. I've never been in a busy tower, but working a busy approach control is a blastMy best advice is try to get in as a tower controller, eventually we get paid the same but we're happier and not locked in the radar dungeon with the center mascots Depression and Internal Hatred.
You’ll be surprised what will be on your list or how many choices you’ll have. The biggest thing is to be open minded about where you’re going and focus on certifying. After certification, you can start trying to get to where you ultimately want to be. Make the most out of your first facility, regardless of where it isYeah, prior exp bids hire directly to facility based on your previous air traffic experience. My HR POC said I'll be getting a list based on those results when the CIL is finished and the clearances are issued, so no joke, I'm probably going to end up getting something like CPR or FNT, but whatever - I'll take lead poisoning if it means getting my foot in the door lmao
You don't find out what track you are until FOL this last bid that came out.If you’re an OTS hire, it’s random selection that you have no say in. When you get a tentative offer letter, it will say what track you are on (terminal or en route). Although, I have heard of some people getting changed last minute to fill classes, but that’s a rarity.
If you get terminal, you would not go to a stand-alone tracon out of the academy, you’d go to an up/down which is a tower with its own tracon, all facilities level 7 and under (lots of locations across the country, rural and urban).
If you get en route, you’d be at one of the 22(?) ARTCC’s across the country, usually located near big cities. You’ll make more money here early in your career for sure since all facilities are 10 and up. People make more in training than CPCs at low level towers.
As for the differences, it’s a completely different kind of controlling and it’s impossible to explain all of them here. I work at a low level tower and it’s nice having the windows and being able to visually separate planes, but I wouldn’t mind a level 12 paycheck. Security is the same, if not stricter at en route facilities.
As someone said, completely different environments. I've only done center but we've had plenty of terminal transfers and they all say it's completely different.Can someone explain what the advantages and disadvantages are for enroute vs tower vs tracon? There seemed to be way more enroute positions and salaries looked similar. I've visited an enroute facility- dark room, lots of screens, one story. I guess tower is brighter and more security? Does the hiring process randomly place you in enroute or tower? Is one easier to certify/train?