Hiring Bid Experienced bid: FAA-ATO-16-ATC-EXP-49432

[MJ]

I have almost 2 years in the tower I'm at, but I wasn't prior military. Went to one of those ever famous cto schools back in 2010, got hired on July 2015.

You'll be AG band.

 

[ajmezz]

Is there any documentation or anything you're aware of as to why that is the case?

 

[MJ]

Is there any documentation or anything you're aware of as to why that is the case?

Article 108 section 5 para b

New Hire (not required to attend Initial Qualifications Training): Basic Pay set at the AG pay band upon the effective date of their appointment to their facility of record.

 

[ajmezz]

Is it a federal rule across the board that prior military get the lowest D band upon initial hire? I guess that's more of what I was asking.

 

[MJ]

Is it a federal rule across the board that prior military get the lowest D band upon initial hire? I guess that's more of what I was asking.

Pay is set by contract. Same section para 4

For a Military or DOD Civilian controller with fifty-two (52) consecutive weeks experience as a certified air traffic controller, Basic Pay shall be set at the lowest developmental pay level for the assigned ATC facility upon the effective date of their appointment to their facility of record.

 

[eltors0]

Just an fyi, you are still at the AG level upon entry but your pay is set at the lowest developmental band. You will receive lump sum pay outs when there are raises until you actually certify on enough positions to rate a bump in the developmental pay level.

 

[JOHNDOVA]

When should I expect my FOL? Start date June 11th.

 

[Gophils22]

About 30 days prior

 

[JOHNDOVA]

Thank you.

 

[Gophils22]

Actually I got mine almost 45 days prior

 

[JOHNDOVA]

Actually I got mine almost 45 days prior

ok cool. I'm hoping for this week just want to seal the deal.

 

[ajmezz]

John, did you get any kind of response after emailing with a start date?

 

[OscarGolf]

Pay is set by contract. Same section para 4

I don't think that is up to date because my pay on my FOL for anchorage is slightly below D2... is it any number between the high and low D1 or the starting lowest number

 

[JOHNDOVA]

John, did you get any kind of response after emailing with a start date?

No just replied I will gladly accept my assignment with a start date of June 11th. I think it's all relative to the start date chosen on how soon they get back with the FOL

 

[Gophils22]

This is true ^^

 

[JOHNDOVA]

when is your start date Aj?

 

[ajmezz]

I chose 6/25. I tried calling the hr lady that emailed me the selection (CB) to see how this shutdown might affect things and what/when to expect next, but got no answer and just left a voicemail. I'm still a bit away from that 30-45 day mark, but would be nice to know how the rest of this process goes.

 

[JOHNDOVA]

I chose 6/25. I tried calling the hr lady that emailed me the selection (CB) to see how this shutdown might affect things and what/when to expect next, but got no answer and just left a voicemail. I'm still a bit away from that 30-45 day mark, but would be nice to know how the rest of this process goes.

Shutdown? Are you talking about the federal hiring freeze if so I thought that didn't affect us

 

[CK]

Shutdown? Are you talking about the federal hiring freeze if so I thought that didn't affect us

It doesnt however, if the Gov shuts down again as it has threatened since it DID happen in 2013. That would put a damper on things. RPO's released from duty, instructors let go from OKC, non-certified people sequestered, controllers not getting paid their full pay check etc.

 

[ajmezz]

Shutdown? Are you talking about the federal hiring freeze if so I thought that didn't affect us

Like what CK said. There's a potential government shutdown (basically an every year thing since congress won't pass a budget and just a continuing resolution) by the end of the week. If it does happen, it could slow things down/move back a start date, on top of controllers getting furloughed and/or not paid.