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Hiring Bid FAA-ATO-20-ALLSRCE-65607

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  1. WavesAndClouds #21
    Termine said:

    IIRC your score is good for three years, something like that. Conventional wisdom in the past has been that if you didn't get a TOL your score wasn't good enough and you should re-take.

    This time around it might be a little different, because the rule that they have to hire the same number of people from the two pools (within 10%) is no longer there. Depending on how many people apply that could mean you have a better or worse chance of getting hired in either pool. But you'll still likely see a score increase if you take the test again, which can't be a bad thing.

    Don’t take it again! You have scored into the highest bracket and taking it again can only hurt you. Its just random if you get selected or not, if there are more people in the top band than there are spots. I left my score alone and got selected the second go around.

  2. ogthebear #22
    WavesAndClouds said:

    Don’t take it again! You have scored into the highest bracket and taking it again can only hurt you. Its just random if you get selected or not, if there are more people in the top band than there are spots. I left my score alone and got selected the second go around.

    I'm going to transfer over my BQ score from 2018 to this bid. Thank you

  3. Termine #23
    WavesAndClouds said:

    You have scored into the highest bracket and taking it again can only hurt you. Its just random if you get selected or not

    You got a source to back that up? It's certainly possible they just toss all the BQ people into one big bucket and pick based on work experience, or education, or birthday, or drawing a lottery, or whether the HR rep thinks your name sounds cool. But my default assumption (Occam's razor and all that) is that they go down the list based on numeric score on the ATSA.

    If you have something that says otherwise I'd be happy to see it.

  4. WavesAndClouds #24
    Termine said:

    You got a source to back that up? It's certainly possible they just toss all the BQ people into one big bucket and pick based on work experience, or education, or birthday, or drawing a lottery, or whether the HR rep thinks your name sounds cool. But my default assumption (Occam's razor and all that) is that they go down the list based on numeric score on the ATSA.

    If you have something that says otherwise I'd be happy to see it.

    Yeah the HR person I talked to on the phone last time before I got selected.

  5. Zizia #25

    Here we go! Pool 2 OTS!

  6. Jsybird2532 #26
    WavesAndClouds said:

    Don’t take it again! You have scored into the highest bracket and taking it again can only hurt you. Its just random if you get selected or not, if there are more people in the top band than there are spots. I left my score alone and got selected the second go around.

    Kinda figured that's the case. Also, I'm wondering if order you applied (ie: if you do it early during the window vs later) matters in any way. Last time my application went in on the last day of the window. This time, it went in the morning of the first day.

  7. BravoWhiskeyTwoThree #27
    dwass001 said:

    First year with pool 1 gets top priority, finally ???

    As if pool 1 hasnt already had priority. June 2019 bid there were well qualified in Pool 1 that got TOLs, but Best qualified in Pool 2 that didnt get referred.

  8. ClearanceClarence #28
    DW3 said:

    Did someone contact you to let you know everything was submitted? I was notified that I got my medical clearance and was debating on contacting my security POC or just not doing anything and waiting to get an FOL.

    Termine said:

    IIRC your score is good for three years, something like that. Conventional wisdom in the past has been that if you didn't get a TOL your score wasn't good enough and you should re-take.

    This time around it might be a little different, because the rule that they have to hire the same number of people from the two pools (within 10%) is no longer there. Depending on how many people apply that could mean you have a better or worse chance of getting hired in either pool. But you'll still likely see a score increase if you take the test again, which can't be a bad thing.

    I originally took the ATSA in 2017, was not selected. I reapplied and recycled my test scores for the 2018 bid and got a TOL. It all depends on what the average scores for any particular bid are.

  9. wAnnabe #29
    Termine said:

    IIRC your score is good for three years, something like that. Conventional wisdom in the past has been that if you didn't get a TOL your score wasn't good enough and you should re-take.

    This time around it might be a little different, because the rule that they have to hire the same number of people from the two pools (within 10%) is no longer there. Depending on how many people apply that could mean you have a better or worse chance of getting hired in either pool. But you'll still likely see a score increase if you take the test again, which can't be a bad thing.

    Oh that's pretty cool. I didn't know they had officially removed it.

    Idk man, I have applied the past 3 times, got well qualified for both except the last one in which I got just qualified. I even feel like I did better than the other times. What else do I gotta do?!

  10. ChuckMastaT #30
    wAnnabe said:

    Oh that's pretty cool. I didn't know they had officially removed it.

    Idk man, I have applied the past 3 times, got well qualified for both except the last one in which I got just qualified. I even feel like I did better than the other times. What else do I gotta do?!

    The struggle is real, man. I feel you. This is our time. We will rise up against all odds. Over come this great struggle together. 2020 is our year haha

  11. Lostttt #31
    ChuckMastaT said:

    The struggle is real, man. I feel you. This is our time. We will rise up against all odds. Over come this great struggle together. 2020 is our year haha

    wAnnabe said:

    Oh that's pretty cool. I didn't know they had officially removed it.

    Idk man, I have applied the past 3 times, got well qualified for both except the last one in which I got just qualified. I even feel like I did better than the other times. What else do I gotta do?!

    Same... 6th time applying, good luck everyone!

  12. Chickadee1514 #32

    Who else is only active on here between application day and when TOLs go out? ?

    Third time's the charm!

  13. AshleyKay801 #33

    First time! I know it will be a long and slow process, but I’m excited! Good luck everyone! ??

  14. Kylekjm #34

    I took the ATSA for two years in a row now. I am wondering if I can use my score from 2018 instead of 2019 or does taking it again null out the prior score.

  15. WhiskeyAndChocolate #35
    Kylekjm said:

    I took the ATSA for two years in a row now. I am wondering if I can use my score from 2018 instead of 2019 or does taking it again null out the prior score.

    You must use the most recent score. Maybe try ATCPrep.com software. I used that on and off before the test until I consistently scored above the blue line and blue shaded area for all parts on the hardest settings. I feel like the really helped me on test day.

  16. VictorTango #36

    Does anyone know how to get the SF-50 before bid closes Monday?

  17. Iwasofftheline #37
    wAnnabe said:

    Oh that's pretty cool. I didn't know they had officially removed it.

    Idk man, I have applied the past 3 times, got well qualified for both except the last one in which I got just qualified. I even feel like I did better than the other times. What else do I gotta do?!

    I applied for the last posting back in 2018. Where do you see if your score was best qualified, well qualified or qualified?

  18. Zizia #38
    jzab said:

    I applied for the last posting back in 2018. Where do you see if your score was best qualified, well qualified or qualified?

    If you applied in 2018, you would need to call HR and have them tell you.

  19. ogthebear #39
    Zizia said:

    If you applied in 2018, you would need to call HR and have them tell you.

    Do you have the HR number by any chance?

  20. Zizia #40
    ogthebear said:

    Do you have the HR number by any chance?

    I don't offhand, but if you go into other hiring threads, it's littered throughout the threads.

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