Faith in NATCA

SFGiants10

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I saw a post in the other thread about confidence in NATCA and multiple people liking the post.

What’s your faith in NATCA now and moving forward?

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GulfCharlie

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It shows the Union is not as powerful as most of our members believe. The Union could cease to exist tomorrow if the agency truly decided to flex its muscles.
 

PushingTin

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It shows the Union is not as powerful as most of our members believe. The Union could cease to exist tomorrow if the agency truly decided to flex its muscles.
and if official time is ever truly eliminated, that's the nail in the Unions coffin.


I think the Union has been amazong on Covid19.

I think NCEPT is well meaning but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

As for their politics, I think they should stay the fu*& out of politics and worry more about ATC and less about every woke SJW cause of the week. Their social media is basically an arm of MSNBC.

when you in bed w people like Ilhan Omar ("some ppl did something" on 9/11).... youve sold your soul to the devil. This pic made me puke in my mouth

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GulfCharlie

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As for their politics, I think they should stay the fu*& out of politics and worry more about ATC and less about every woke SJW cause of the week. Their social media is basically an arm of MSNBC.
This... please for the love of God do not let the PAC cut a check this year...
 

DankVectorz

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I have had no qualms with NATCA’s response to Covid. I know our local has been active in fighting managements intransigence. You have to remember that NATCA can only fight for policy, not enact it.
 

CF

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and if official time is ever truly eliminated, that's the nail in the Unions coffin.


I think the Union has been amazong on Covid19.

I think NCEPT is well meaning but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

As for their politics, I think they should stay the fu*& out of politics and worry more about ATC and less about every woke SJW cause of the week. Their social media is basically an arm of MSNBC.

when you in bed w people like Ilhan Omar ("some ppl did something" on 9/11).... youve sold your soul to the devil. This pic made me puke in my mouth

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Who are you?
 

AB19

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and if official time is ever truly eliminated, that's the nail in the Unions coffin.


I think the Union has been amazong on Covid19.

I think NCEPT is well meaning but the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

As for their politics, I think they should stay the fu*& out of politics and worry more about ATC and less about every woke SJW cause of the week. Their social media is basically an arm of MSNBC.

when you in bed w people like Ilhan Omar ("some ppl did something" on 9/11).... youve sold your soul to the devil. This pic made me puke in my mouth

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How do you expect natca to not be political?
 

PushingTin

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How do you expect natca to not be political?
So political in the context of ATC, the NAS, Legislation, etc... is essential. I should have said partisan* politics. Why are they constantly pushing causes constantly that have 0 to do w our job or reason for existing. I can only assume it's a reflection of the personal political beliefs of the leadership? I'm sure if it fits your politics you may appreciate that, but a whole lot of people dont.
 

FightingIrish2012

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Here is a thought experiment, imagine you have a Controller at your facility get caught stealing toiler paper form the facility. Maybe two normal sized rolls or one of the giant, paper thin industrial ones. You know this could happen soon. If the FAA moved to fire the person, do you think NATCA would devote huge effort and resources to save them, or would they let them hang for the civil disobedience like NATCA says it will if you get caught sleeping on the mid or are using your cell phone and have a accident?
 

PushingTin

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, do you think NATCA would devote huge effort and resources to save them, or would they let them hang for the civil disobedience like NATCA says it will if you get caught sleeping on the mid or are using your cell phone and have a accident?

NATCA has not said this, just rogue small time facreps who insert their own bias into the process.
 

AB19

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So political in the context of ATC, the NAS, Legislation, etc... is essential. I should have said partisan* politics. Why are they constantly pushing causes constantly that have 0 to do w our job or reason for existing. I can only assume it's a reflection of the personal political beliefs of the leadership? I'm sure if it fits your politics you may appreciate that, but a whole lot of people dont.
No I get this point, a lot of stuff natca puts out there is cringe city
 

Stevo62

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Here is a thought experiment, imagine you have a Controller at your facility get caught stealing toiler paper form the facility. Maybe two normal sized rolls or one of the giant, paper thin industrial ones. You know this could happen soon. If the FAA moved to fire the person, do you think NATCA would devote huge effort and resources to save them, or would they let them hang for the civil disobedience like NATCA says it will if you get caught sleeping on the mid or are using your cell phone and have a accident?
Funny you bring this up this actually happened the stealing of toilet paper prior to the virus in Miami center some years ago
 

ZP

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Is it possible to be a controller but not be a NATCA member?
You’d be a bargaining unit employee but not a “dues paying member”. You’ll have all the rights afforded by the contract but don’t expect NATCA to go the extra mile if you need them. We have 2 in my facility.
 
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