Hardship questions

CaptainObvious

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Word in the street is that HR is cracking the whip on CPC rehires as far as direct to facility placements. I know there have been some that were successful, but I've recently heard of people going through the process only to be told they will get a list of facilities instead of being picked up for the one they applied to.
Just a thought. Perhaps if they made movement freer instead of more restrictive, none of these issues would even exist
 

Stevo62

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Just a thought. Perhaps if they made movement freer instead of more restrictive, none of these issues would even exist
You really think so? Hard to staff facilities are that way for a reason nobody wants to go there. If you make movement freer do they get to move also? I believe people should know what facility they are going to before heading to okc then they can decide if they want to accept the job but to send you to okc not knowing where you will end up is crazy.
 

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You really think so? Hard to staff facilities are that way for a reason nobody wants to go there. If you make movement freer do they get to move also? I believe people should know what facility they are going to before heading to okc then they can decide if they want to accept the job but to send you to okc not knowing where you will end up is crazy.
If they assigned random facility before the academy I'm pretty sure some people wouldn't show up. Plus if they just sent folks to were they want to go some facilities would never get people. The current way sucks but it works at staffing the lower level facilities.
 

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You really think so? Hard to staff facilities are that way for a reason nobody wants to go there. If you make movement freer do they get to move also? I believe people should know what facility they are going to before heading to okc then they can decide if they want to accept the job but to send you to okc not knowing where you will end up is crazy.
Well let’s see. I started at a facility that was undesirable and also operated well under their staffing number for decades, to the tune of 10-11 cpcs under. Everyone from the ATM and FACREP down called it a training facility, and encouraged you to check out and leave. 9 people had TOLs to larger, more desirable facilities when I got there, and then it dropped to zero under NCEPT.
 

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One of your family member's or in-laws might NEED you guys close for medical reasons? You may be their only family capable of taking care of them? Preferably in Prescott lol

My advice... Don't let the losers and haters get you down! Pull whatever scam you must. Lifes too short. If all else fails one of you quit. Prob be happier anyway.

In true love the smallest distance is too great, and the greatest distance can be bridged.

 
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One of your family member's or in-laws might NEED you guys close for medical reasons? You may be their only family capable of taking care of them? Preferably in Prescott lol

My advice... Don't let the losers and haters get you down! Pull whatever scam you must. Lifes too short. If all else fails one of you quit. Prob be happier anyway.

In true love the smallest distance is too great, and the greatest distance can be bridged.

I agree, the rules are set up to screw you, if you can find a way around it so be it. And remember, this is not “the best job in the world”. #bestjobintheworld #weusedtobebusy #payyordues #sharerheburdon #levelup
 

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I agree, the rules are set up to screw you, if you can find a way around it so be it. And remember, this is not “the best job in the world”. #bestjobintheworld #weusedtobebusy #payyordues #sharerheburdon #levelup
"Best Job in the world" is propaganda parroted by lifers who have been institutionalized by milking the govt tit for 30 years and cant imagine anything different. Its a standard govt job. Look at the corrections officers "guarding" Jeff Epstein. 6 OT shifts in a row to let him hang. Those guys are making more than YOU, to suck at their job.

No, go for the girl I say. Before the crusty old trainer corrupts her and breaks her spirit. the clock is ticking!
 
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FightingIrish2012

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"Best Job in the world" is propaganda parroted by lifers who have been institutionalized by milking the govt tit for 30 years and cant imagine anything different. Its a standard govt job. Look at the corrections officers "guarding" Jeff Epstein. 6 OT shifts in a row to let him hang. Those guys are making more than YOU, to suck at their job.

No, go for the girl I say. Before the crusty old trainer corrupts her and breaks her spirit.
Epstein was a travesty of justice, looks like a true conspiracy. “Best Job in the World” is only promoted by people places at level 12’s at age 25 and aviation obsessed dorks who would do the job for 40K a year not caring about how they are getting screwed as long as they can look at airplanes in the window.
 

PushingTin

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aviation obsessed dorks who would do the job for 40K a year not caring about how they are getting screwed as long as they can look at airplanes in the window.
These people also make the worst controllers. They're alwasy worried about "pilots dont like that" "pilots dont prefer this". But hey they can tell you that a Honda Jet is worth 4-5 million and can get to FL430 if everyone on board is wearing skinny jeans.

Hardships are often unfairly denied, because there are "scam blocker" cock blocking people who want to police your life and think the only reasonable reason to help you is stage 4 cancer on the brink of hospice. RESIST and break free the chains of this cookie cutter mentality

 
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Thank you so much for this, this really helps. Do you know if I have to be married for a certain amount of time before even being considered? I heard that you have to be married at least a year, is that accurate? And do you know where I can find more information about eligible releases and the National Release Policy that you quoted? I can't find much about spousal priority in the contract besides article 4, section 4.

Anything would help. I'm sorry if what I'm asking for has obvious answers, I'm totally new to the agency. Brand new controller with only one year on my belt.
I am unaware of any time requirements on spouse/partner related issues so idk. There are documents such as National Release Policy MOU, and the like, linked on the NCEPT page on member side on natca.org and also on ksn (faa intranet).
You can also send questions to the regional reps at [email protected]
 

PushingTin

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You can also send questions to the regional reps at [email protected]
Waiting for Godot is more realistic than waiting for NCEPT, and will drive you less mad.

Mick Devine is no Samuel Beckett.

PPT = Poop, Poop, And toilet paper. Beware: NCEPT will never save you. Try again (next quarter). Fail again. fail better. get old and withered and destroyed by 25 years of double quick turn rattlers. spend your TSP on an airstream and see what the republic of AZ looks like in 2045. Continue on to LAS and see if sister Rachel will have a drink for ol times.

No importa que nos separe la distancia, siempre habrá un mismo cielo que nos una.
 

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Was it at one of the sponsored Kim's Place garage orgies?
Gonna have to take a break from my chush scam to do the FIT class / OKC scam so I can get some strange...

Seems like I'm always one step behind the loose atc prospects. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, I should be showing them my LES and telling them that I have a hook up for ERR's and Hardships getting approved?
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Waiting for Godot is more realistic than waiting for NCEPT, and will drive you less mad.

Mick Devine is no Samuel Beckett.

PPT = Poop, Poop, And toilet paper. Beware: NCEPT will never save you. Try again (next quarter). Fail again. fail better. get old and withered and destroyed by 25 years of double quick turn rattlers. spend your TSP on an airstream and see what the republic of AZ looks like in 2045. Continue on to LAS and see if sister Rachel will have a drink for ol times.

No importa que nos separe la distancia, siempre habrá un mismo cielo que nos una.
I expected a picture. You disappoint me.
 

PushingTin

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Seems like I'm always one step behind the loose atc prospects. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, I should be showing them my LES and telling them that I have a hook up for ERR's and Hardships getting approved?
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I thought I saw u walking the parking lot w that girl! 👀

This is a great opportunity to bring up an alternate and much more successful way to transfer than hardship or NCEPT. The proverbial affair w OJTI, & filing of EEO after washout. Always awkward for the facility tho.

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