Page 56/57 and how it effects us when the contract ends.
Our facility has been briefed multiple times by the rep/legislative rep on these possible changes.
*This isn’t meant to be a political post.
House republican plan
- Thread starter JO
- Start date
Page 56/57 and how it effects us when the contract ends.
Our facility has been briefed multiple times by the rep/legislative rep on these possible changes.
*This isn’t meant to be a political post.
32andBelow
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 10,170
Any house republicans plan doesn’t really matter right now. And vote in November if you want to keep it that way.
FightingIrish2012
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 1,959
I thought engaging in political activity while on official time was already illegal under the hatch act?
It is. I just got an email about NATCA in Washington, that was one of the bullet points: you have to be on RDOs, annual leave, or LWOP for the duration of the conference. What this document seems to be talking about is not allowing union reps/RVPs/etc official time to conduct union business.
Also, it's pretty fucking rich to say that unions can force members to pay dues when that's... actually not the case. At least for public-sector unions.
Supreme Court Rules Against Mandatory Union Dues For Public Employees
The Supreme Court on Wednesday ruled that public sector unions are no longer allowed to compel workers to pay dues. This represents a blow to organized labor.
www.npr.org
In a blow to public sector unions, Supreme Court overturns 40-year-old precedent
The case is the second in two days to hand a major victory to conservatives.
- Messages
- 3,489
OP says it's not meant to be political but unfortunately it's always going to be when you work for the government.
Whatever they are saying about the intentions, it’s nothing more than trying to hurt the unions ability to conduct it’s business. How many of your facreps would do their jobs if it meant doing it 100% outside of work time and potentially unpaid?
Whatever they are saying about the intentions, it’s nothing more than trying to hurt the unions ability to conduct it’s business. How many of your facreps would do their jobs if it meant doing it 100% outside of work time and potentially unpaid?
Maintainvfr
Forum Sage
- Messages
- 528
They're trying to take official time away, and you're making a joke about how they're gonna give them more leave? I don't understand
Mike Kilo
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 2,957
Official time costs the agency. Taking our annual leave to replace their free time wouldn’t. We are getting paid for our annual leave no matter what, unless you are dumb enough to carry over more than 240.
- Messages
- 3,222
theres Already been a few XOs that have gone through meant to undermine unions. Things like not allowing government facilities or resources to be utilized by unions (see the VA.. they evicted all the union offices right after it went into effect). death by a thousand cuts
Maintainvfr
Forum Sage
- Messages
- 528
Oh alright I thought you were saying they would be given an extra 30 min of annual leave, not they would be charged it. My fault ?
P
PushingTin
Guest
Winter is coming.
Phillyman2633
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 1,128
Well mine took official time to take Christmas and New Years off, so we can probably count him out.
That's dirty lmao
- Messages
- 3,489
Electricfence
Trusted Contributor
- Messages
- 373
the Rep took advantage when he’s supposed to be doing the work of natca, might as well be a manager with that attitude.
FightingIrish2012
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 1,959
I hear the VA abuse's the crap out of official time, so bad that that is what inspired Trump and the GOP congress to notice it and try to ban it across the board. I have really not seen much official time abuse with NATCA. Some Fac Reps try to max it out no matter what but hopefully that is few and far between. The only people I know of continuously on official time are the people that truly need to be. Fac Reps at centers, RVP's etc......
Mike Kilo
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 2,957
Terrible idea imo. If I recall last time they did this, they only had funds to give x amount of people a raise. Or more of a raise. If the agency was authorized to give everyone a 5% raise if they merited it that might be a little better, but I’d still be against it for the favoritism. We have cash and time off awards for appreciating individuals (if your facility deigns to put in for them)
So it will 100% become a favorites game. We all know the people who suck off management every chance they get. Instead of reporting to the control room they swing by the ATMs office etc.
Prime example. Working one day and a sup comes in and gives the same individual three awards. Two cash and one time off. In front of everyone. Nobody else received anything. Ummmm....you seriously couldn’t find anyone else to reward? People that train non stop? That are reworking the orders to a better format? Etc etc.
FightingIrish2012
Legendary Member
- Messages
- 1,959
I do wish that there were different increases for controllers. It always sucked to me that the best controller gets the same raise as the worst one or the ones on medical office duties for months at a time or ones blatantly abusing leave and dodging traffic. But for that to work you would need competent managers and metrics to determine who is good and who is bad, and since that don’t exist might as well stick with the communism 1.6% for everyone plan.
AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise
Forum Sage
- Messages
- 660
How do you measure how proficient a controller is? I can tell who better controllers are when I sit down, but how can you generate a performance based metric to judge someone? That’s a question way above my pay grade and math ability.
Similar threads
