May (Q3) 2025

[CF]

Our target is 15 and it’s going to 21… we have 14 CPCs and management doesn’t know where to put people.

I like breaks

 

[Tudes]

I like breaks

The great part is we only get 30-35 minute breaks and a 45 lunch lol. We will get put on TRACON data for 5 minutes so we don’t get too long of a spool…

 

[But_I_Had_Visual]

I like breaks

Until the district has a hissy fit about your TOP… which they will with a quickness

 

[Jay-Jay Jet Plane]

The great part is we only get 30-35 minute breaks and a 45 lunch lol. We will get put on TRACON data for 5 minutes so we don’t get too long of a spool…

You get a 45 minute lunch?!? We’ve been on strict 30s for years

 

[Tudes]

You get a 45 minute lunch?!? We’ve been on strict 30s for years

Most days lol. We started with 30s, and then 35s, and now 45s. Which I know is crazy to complain about when some people barely get 20 minute breaks. I would just think having good staffing would give us decent breaks, nope.

 

[CF]

Until the district has a hissy fit about your TOP… which they will with a quickness

That’s okay put me on LA5 and I’ll just stare at the ceiling.

 

[32andBelow]

Our target is 15 and it’s going to 21… we have 14 CPCs and management doesn’t know where to put people.

They’ll just make you split every position all day. It sucks

 

[FightingIrish2012]

New CRWG numbers out, they killed transfers one hour before the opening of convention.

 

[FlightOfTheShortGuy]

Maybe new release policy will factor in amount of trainees in the pipeline and if they expect to certify or not. If they just froze transfers while also only giving a pay raise to the retire eligible controllers then how can NATCA not expect the members to revolt or be incredibly divided?

 

[Golf delta]

Maybe new release policy will factor in amount of trainees in the pipeline and if they expect to certify or not. If they just froze transfers while also only giving a pay raise to the retire eligible controllers then how can NATCA not expect the members to revolt or be incredibly divided?

That’s exactly what’ll happen. Talk about how great of an achievement the CRWG numbers are - the agency is already doing max hiring so it won’t help that at all. It will only lock down/minimize transfers. Then just give a bonus to the old guys they want a little more time out of. Most of us just have to keep plugging away on weekends and holidays while we watch our salary slowly get eaten away by inflation. Look at all the great things our union has done for us.

 

[Spoony90]

One of the many reasons why I’m getting out of NATCA.

 

[ABACUS]

Does anybody have the MOU? Why isn’t it public? Are they creating the talking points or something for how shit it’s going to be?

 

[But_I_Had_Visual]

Does anybody have the MOU? Why isn’t it public? Are they creating the talking points or something for how shit it’s going to be?

Gotta make sure they indoctrinate all the folks at convention first so they can come back to the facilities and tell you that you’re just too stupid to understand and should just get involved more if you don’t like it

 

[dingalings99]

If the rules aren't out yet is it too late to submit a package? I saw on Reddit someone said trainees now count as expected certs? My fac has a bunch of em but if they count now we'd be over 85%

 

[GulfBravoPapa]

If the rules aren't out yet is it too late to submit a package? I saw on Reddit someone said trainees now count as expected certs? My fac has a bunch of em but if they count now we'd be over 85%

Theyve always counted towards projected staffing.... there is a formula that takes into account your success rate, and throws in a few people retiring/dying/losing medical etc

 

[Gauff]

If the rules aren't out yet is it too late to submit a package? I saw on Reddit someone said trainees now count as expected certs? My fac has a bunch of em but if they count now we'd be over 85%

Would you be over 85% with the new CRWG numbers though

 

[zuluyankee]

Theyve always counted towards projected staffing.... there is a formula that takes into account your success rate, and throws in a few people retiring/dying/losing medical etc

But does it count future Australians?