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Erick said:
? there’s nothing wrong with wanting to live in a specific place and enjoying where you live. So sick of the mentality that you should be thankful to the FAA for giving us the precious opportunity to work for them. This topic has been rehashed a million times so I’m not gonna blabber on about it anymore.
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I'm not saying YOU should be thankful, or that anyone else should either. But there is TWO sides to this. The other side is there are people out there that would be VERY happy for the opportunity. That's all. It goes both ways
 
Fos said:
How was it? Did they seem excited to be on position?
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Seemed nice to me. Big airfield and they were nice enough to let me up there for a tour (I was a flight attendant at the time). Area was definitely affordable and Former Redskins RB Alfred Morris was on my flight to HSV. I think so much of happiness and success at your first facility is was what you make of it. If you go into it with a negative view on your facility you're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. I guess some places you can be stuck there for awhile, but it's not your forever facility, so try and see the glass half full and that'll make things a lot easier I imagine. Everything doesn't have to be rainbows and unicorns, but people can smell it a mile away if you despise being there and have a negative attitude
 
ATCNOMAD said:
I'm not saying YOU should be thankful, or that anyone else should either. But there is TWO sides to this. The other side is there are people out there that would be VERY happy for the opportunity. That's all. It goes both ways
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We have all been on both sides if you're currently a CPC or Dev. You should probably talk to the FAA about the annual 3 day OTS bids if that's the narrative you're going with, that could easily offer the 60k+ opportunities to more people. Meanwhile, you can't really expect the lower level CPCs to be content.

There is a 10 year old child in Africa hooked on smack and mowing down a village with an RPK...guess I should be content in whatever and not strive for more.
 
JNev said:
Seemed nice to me. Big airfield and they were nice enough to let me up there for a tour (I was a flight attendant at the time). Area was definitely affordable and Former Redskins RB Alfred Morris was on my flight to HSV. I think so much of happiness and success at your first facility is was what you make of it. If you go into it with a negative view on your facility you're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. I guess some places you can be stuck there for awhile, but it's not your forever facility, so try and see the glass half full and that'll make things a lot easier I imagine. Everything doesn't have to be rainbows and unicorns, but people can smell it a mile away if you despise being there and have a negative attitude
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There is such thing as a forever facility. It’s calked N90. ???
 
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Foogy said:
We have all been on both sides if you're currently a CPC or Dev. You should probably talk to the FAA about the annual 3 day OTS bids if that's the narrative you're going with, that could easily offer the 60k+ opportunities to more people. Meanwhile, you can't really expect the lower level CPCs to be content.

There is a 10 year old child in Africa hooked on smack and mowing down a village with an RPK...guess I should be content in whatever and not strive for more.
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I'm not saying be content. But people on here are sounding down right bitter. And it is good from time to time think about that kid in a 3rd world country and think your lucky stars you aren't in that situation. Like it or not at a low level facility you are in a position that most people would love. Just like a bench warmer pro athlete making 500k-900k a season isn't happy because he wants to be a star with a 10 million dollar contract. But most would kill to make 500k+ a year to sit the bench and show up to practice lol
 
ATCNOMAD said:
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I'm not saying be content. But people on here are sounding down right bitter. And it is good from time to time think about that kid in a 3rd world country and think your lucky stars you aren't in that situation. Like it or not at a low level facility you are in a position that most people would love. Just like a bench warmer pro athlete making 500k-900k a season isn't happy because he wants to be a star with a 10 million dollar contract. But most would kill to make 500k+ a year to sit the bench and show up to practice lol
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I am fairly sure that as a large group we all know our fair share of washouts, hopefuls, age outs, academy drops...etc etc. I am fairly sure none of us need reminders of how much work/sacrifice we've put into this career. I'm also fairly sure we don't need reminders of the product/fortune of those efforts.

This forum is a good example of how we know about people who want what we have, how many are CPCs here that actually lend help, experiences, knowledge to people at the academy, going through training, applying or hopeful.
 
Foogy said:
We have all been on both sides if you're currently a CPC or Dev. You should probably talk to the FAA about the annual 3 day OTS bids if that's the narrative you're going with, that could easily offer the 60k+ opportunities to more people. Meanwhile, you can't really expect the lower level CPCs to be content.

There is a 10 year old child in Africa hooked on smack and mowing down a village with an RPK...guess I should be content in whatever and not strive for more.
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I wouldnt say no to a free rpk. Just saying.
 
JNev said:
Seemed nice to me. Big airfield and they were nice enough to let me up there for a tour (I was a flight attendant at the time). Area was definitely affordable and Former Redskins RB Alfred Morris was on my flight to HSV. I think so much of happiness and success at your first facility is was what you make of it. If you go into it with a negative view on your facility you're creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. I guess some places you can be stuck there for awhile, but it's not your forever facility, so try and see the glass half full and that'll make things a lot easier I imagine. Everything doesn't have to be rainbows and unicorns, but people can smell it a mile away if you despise being there and have a negative attitude
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Good one Jake ?
 
Fos said:
Anyone from HSV?
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I never worked at the facility so I don’t have much insight on the training environment and facility morale, but I worked for airport management and lived in Huntsville for two years. I do know when I left in mid 2018 they had received several trainees from the academy within a year. The tower is open from 6am to Midnight and occasionally they’re open on the midnight shift on Sunday night/Monday morning to accommodate Atlas 747s. It’s a diverse mix of traffic as you have General aviation aircraft, business jets, commercial traffic, big cargo aircraft, army helicopters from nearby Redstone AAF, and several types of military aircraft come from nearby AFBs to do practice approaches and touch and goes in a VFR pattern. At any one time it’s not uncommon to have 4 Beechjets from Columbus AFB doing practice approaches and repeated touch and goes. The runway configuration is as simple at it gets for an airport with two runways: they’re parallel with a couple taxiways running between them and they’re far enough apart to run simultaneous ILS approaches. The reason it’s such a popular military destination is because the runways are huge: One is 12,600 feet long, and the other is 10,600 ft.
Huntsville itself is a small city, but I enjoyed my time there. There are several microbreweries in the city, good hiking close by in NE Alabama and SE TN, and the cost of living is low. As mentioned above it’s two hours from nashville, two from Birmingham, about four from memphis, 4 from Atlanta, and about 5 from the ocean so a weekend getaway is very easy. I hope that provides a little bit of insight you didn’t already have and will make a decision easier once your day to choose comes. Good luck with evals
 
Needed a sneeze to pass. Just 35 points to lock it in. After receiving a 90+ on my previous local run, I was all smiles and excited to give my instructor the final thumbs up after being the last run of PA's. Everything was great, no missed wake timers, no missed wake turbulance advisories, no delays, 16 departures shot out, no runway separation problems nothing. It was all sunshine and rainbows until good ol Barron 71GL came in and ruined my life. Quite literally. I gave him a pattern entry and a right 360 for spacing. I thought it was enough but it wasn't. I lost control of my sequence and had an unplanned go around. After that, it was a frantic effort to clean up and re establish the pattern. Unfortunately it was too late, the PA was over and I had lost way too many small points to pass. I held in the tears pretty well but it was mostly due to being in denial that I was going home. It didn't hit me until seeing the security dude in my rearview escorting me out with no where to be and nothing to do that it became real and I broke down. It was quite the experience, lucky to have had a shot. I'm thankful I was apart of a pretty rad group of people. Seems like just yesterday we were picking up scraps from Cowboys and exploring the secret underground tunnels.

Life's not fair tho

skrt skrt
-Miles
 
RH316 said:
A previous coworker of mine started his career there. Said the controllers there don’t take kind to non-southerners and non-white people.
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Fos said:
Needed a sneeze to pass. Just 35 points to lock it in. After receiving a 90+ on my previous local run, I was all smiles and excited to give my instructor the final thumbs up after being the last run of PA's. Everything was great, no missed wake timers, no missed wake turbulance advisories, no delays, 16 departures shot out, no runway separation problems nothing. It was all sunshine and rainbows until good ol Barron 71GL came in and ruined my life. Quite literally. I gave him a pattern entry and a right 360 for spacing. I thought it was enough but it wasn't. I lost control of my sequence and had an unplanned go around. After that, it was a frantic effort to clean up and re establish the pattern. Unfortunately it was too late, the PA was over and I had lost way too many small points to pass. I held in the tears pretty well but it was mostly due to being in denial that I was going home. It didn't hit me until seeing the security dude in my rearview escorting me out with no where to be and nothing to do that it became real and I broke down. It was quite the experience, lucky to have had a shot. I'm thankful I was apart of a pretty rad group of people. Seems like just yesterday we were picking up scraps from Cowboys and exploring the secret underground tunnels.

Life's not fair tho

skrt skrt
-Miles
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Love you Miles.
 
Fos said:
Needed a sneeze to pass. Just 35 points to lock it in. After receiving a 90+ on my previous local run, I was all smiles and excited to give my instructor the final thumbs up after being the last run of PA's. Everything was great, no missed wake timers, no missed wake turbulance advisories, no delays, 16 departures shot out, no runway separation problems nothing. It was all sunshine and rainbows until good ol Barron 71GL came in and ruined my life. Quite literally. I gave him a pattern entry and a right 360 for spacing. I thought it was enough but it wasn't. I lost control of my sequence and had an unplanned go around. After that, it was a frantic effort to clean up and re establish the pattern. Unfortunately it was too late, the PA was over and I had lost way too many small points to pass. I held in the tears pretty well but it was mostly due to being in denial that I was going home. It didn't hit me until seeing the security dude in my rearview escorting me out with no where to be and nothing to do that it became real and I broke down. It was quite the experience, lucky to have had a shot. I'm thankful I was apart of a pretty rad group of people. Seems like just yesterday we were picking up scraps from Cowboys and exploring the secret underground tunnels.

Life's not fair tho

skrt skrt
-Miles
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Sorry to hear this happen man, these are the horrors of the academy and it happens routinely. I though when they went from the no scores just pass/fail PV to the three evals it would reduce one mistake blowing it for people but I guess not. It’s hard to get away with just a 16 point loss for a separation issue, it is usually tied to other stuff and is a 40 point error.
 
FightingIrish2012 said:
Sorry to hear this happen man, these are the horrors of the academy and it happens routinely. I though when they went from the no scores just pass/fail PV to the three evals it would reduce one mistake blowing it for people but I guess not. It’s hard to get away with just a 16 point loss for a separation issue, it is usually tied to other stuff and is a 40 point error.
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Mike Monroney Aeronautical Center is a devastatingly depressing place. To see and hear all the people crying (no shame in it) after PV day is a terrible thing.

My Tears Are Becoming a Sea

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