The upcoming stacked leave apocalypse

mnsalty

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I don’t think it matters who we have as pres- if you still at home come February of 2021 you won’t be on the books.
 

mnsalty

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I just don’t understand what natca is waiting for. The waters are getting muddy with reports of some facilities starting OJT and others claiming there are no plans and it’s suspending nationally. Clearly someone isn’t telling the story. To make matters worse, furloughs by national seniority would also be a complete disaster - but I’m sure natca will agree to something that further screws over those at home regardless of seniority.
 

makattack71

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I just don’t understand what natca is waiting for. The waters are getting muddy with reports of some facilities starting OJT and others claiming there are no plans and it’s suspending nationally. Clearly someone isn’t telling the story. To make matters worse, furloughs by national seniority would also be a complete disaster - but I’m sure natca will agree to something that further screws over those at home regardless of seniority.
I was told ojti will be awhile by union rep but when they do start the facilities have 60 days to get to standard. OM sent out a text last week saying that ojti could start soon and reminding us we saw recallable. It’s a mess
 

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I was told ojti will be awhile by union rep but when they do start the facilities have 60 days to get to standard. OM sent out a text last week saying that ojti could start soon and reminding us we saw recallable. It’s a mess
The faa said that training iz starting as early as next week. Natca is so triggered their members are going to continue with their careers that they aren’t acknowledging it.
 

JTL2ATC

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The last time I trained was November 2019. So sorry I’m so pissed bro. I’ve trained 25% of my time as a controller. This is retarded
Precisely. I “passed probation” sitting at home. 1/3 of my time in was academy, 1/3 in a classroom, and 1/3 has been sitting at home. We didn’t even get to the EDST in our sims before they shut it down and sent us home. Sorry, but I’d much rather be working toward my certification than get “compensated” with extra time off that I can’t use until after I certify because it’ll further delay my training. If I wanted $45k to sit around and do nothing, I never would’ve left the job I had before getting hired by the FAA.
 
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PushingTin

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Some people think trainers at their facilities will have the option to "opt out"if they srent comfortable training.
 

Mike Kilo

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If there are enough trainers willing to train them I’m sure it would be doable. But if it would stop training from occurring I can’t see it happening.
 
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PushingTin

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I would be shocked if that's allowed to happen.

Pshhh

 

JNev

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Anyone who doesn’t want to train people probably has a ton of sick leave stacked up... just sayin
 

aaran34

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Every conversation reverts back to trainees getting screwed by NATCA. Solidarity is strong in you guys. Contracting out level 4-5 facilities is the key move to what exactly? Solving the FAA’s problems 😂
 

32andBelow

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Every conversation reverts back to trainees getting screwed by NATCA. Solidarity is strong in you guys. Contracting out level 4-5 facilities is the key move to what exactly? Solving the FAA’s problems 😂
Everyone here just bitches that they can never get out of their tower so I thought if they’d contract it they could just go wherever.

I was totally happy with the union until they showed 0 solidarity towards us for the last 5 months.
 

aaran34

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Everyone here just bitches that they can never get out of their tower so I thought if they’d contract it they could just go wherever.

I was totally happy with the union until they showed 0 solidarity towards us for the last 5 months.
I get it, you’re at a poorly run FAA facility. Unfortunately there are more of these than there should be. I’m guessing there are some other variables to consider as well: a change in the training department, a change in NATCA leadership, a change in procedures due to Covid. There’s a lot to consider here but hopefully it improves for you guys.
 

DankVectorz

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2 sources said that the telcon last week said that training is starting as soon as next week. Pending the end of the dentist mask trial.

there’s no memo that’s why we are all pissed

I don’t see how that is possible seeing as how even if the results came back positive today they’d have to find the ppe and then distribute it to every facility. This is the FAA, that isn’t happening quickly.

Also, slightly off topic, could those federal union executive orders Trump signed awhile ago be effecting what the FAA is even telling NATCA? Don’t know how those affect something like this.
 

32andBelow

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I don’t see how that is possible seeing as how even if the results came back positive today they’d have to find the ppe and then distribute it to every facility. This is the FAA, that isn’t happening quickly.
Idk they’d prolly say like training is turned back on but it requires ppe and no one will have the ppe. 🤣

it’s not like anyone is going to wear it. No one is wearing masks now.
 
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