The woeful unpreparedness of Management

[DankVectorz]

So anyone else find it perfect that the infected at JFK, ZNY and LAS were trainees when we’ve been asking trainees to be sent home for at least a week now to limit exposure? (Jfk was tech ops trainee)

 

[Bandit117]

Some comic relief, an FAA top management briefing in a WW1 setting.

Blackadder! I see you’re a man of culture as well

 

[Bandit117]

 

[AnyTrafficPleaseAdvise]

My gut (strictly my gut no rumours) tell me there is something much bigger at play here. The Agency wants to be able to say the system never shut for a few (my own speculative) reasons:
-That we (not Management or the Union) can keep the system going no matter what and never will compromise the safety of the NAS regardless of the Global Situation
-Jobs, specifically theirs, are at risk of incurring the incumbents wrath
-The current situation shows no matter how much the Union "collaborates" "builds relationships" is extremely limited in its influence. The intentions of the Union during this situation while honourable and sincere, show that they as well, are expendable and when push comes to shove cannot influence this tide.
-Shutting down or limiting movement within the system (ie... Medvacs, Cargo, Military only) will open the flood gates for (to steal a line) "Unforeseen Consequences" up to and not limiting a pathway to find people that will do as instructed by the government.

Existential factors such as the economy, politics, and other things (which might explain how the Union is handling this) have have very stark parallels to other moments in history...

We all know that they are postponing the inevitable, how this plays out will be interesting.

 

[GulfCharlie]

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Literally how I feel at the moment but hey someone has to say it right?

 

[PushingTin]

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[fknlo]

My letter to quarantine from the Public Health Official in the NYC Dept of Health was denied today. Word is that the guidance came down from the region, or at least somewhere above my ATM. They are saying the letter is fake because it can be found online so we are making it up. I forwarded the email correspondence I had with the NYC DoH doctor to my ATM and NEA and am awaiting word on whether they will find something in that to shoot down as well.

FAA said they will approve excused leave for those who tested positive, because they figured none of us could get tested unless we were on our deathbed anyway. Then they said "Ok we'll also approve excused leave if you get a letter from a public health official." They didn't think it could be done, then called bullshit when I called their bluff. NATCA says "just stay home and use your sick leave, we'll try to get your leave back later." Except if I hand them everything they need to get me my excused leave NOW and they can't do it, why the hell would I trust them to get me the leave back LATER?

Asinine. Just, asinine. Keep going to work, everything is fine, we'll cross the 25% of your facility dying bridge when we get there. No biggie. You're a big strong healthy man, go do your duty from the NAS. Oh, you infected grandma and she died? Meh, not my problem, your grandma isnt a controller.

Guess I'll keep taking the subway to work!

Coronavirus killing more than a person an hour in NYC

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What does the union have to say about this? Do they even care?

 

[GulfCharlie]

What does the union have to say about this? Do they even care?

Burn your own Sick Leave we will try to get it back later.

 

[Maintainvfr]

Burn your own Sick Leave we will try to get it back later.

That's a pretty big simplification

 

[GulfCharlie]

That's a pretty big simplification

I mean Phillyman basically said what they expected him to do ?‍♂️

 

[PushingTin]

Dems must be frantically trying to figure out a way to get Sleepy Joe out of there. If not they should be. Andrew Cuomo has been owning the virus. A la Giuliani on 911. Does not seem woefully unprepared.

 

[Anthony Perez]

I’m waiting to see which is the first facility, if any, to have the entire staff call out on sick leave.

 

[Stinger]

So anyone else find it perfect that the infected at JFK, ZNY and LAS were trainees when we’ve been asking trainees to be sent home for at least a week now to limit exposure? (Jfk was tech ops trainee)

LAS Covid case is a CPC

 

[Hissmeowra]

If you can't get an excused absence, does anyone know if you're allowed to take LWOP instead of burn up all your leave and possibly be indebted to the agency for leave? Would that put you in a worse situation if after all this is over, people are looking to be made whole?

 

[sk2286]

If you can't get an excused absence, does anyone know if you're allowed to take LWOP instead of burn up all your leave and possibly be indebted to the agency for leave? Would that put you in a worse situation if after all this is over, people are looking to be made whole?

My district approved a “liberal leave policy” for me...so they’ve let me take LWOP, sick, advanced sick, or annual for the time being...no questions asked. Hopefully additional guidance on excused absence is coming soon.

 

[Stinger]

If you can't get an excused absence, does anyone know if you're allowed to take LWOP instead of burn up all your leave and possibly be indebted to the agency for leave? Would that put you in a worse situation if after all this is over, people are looking to be made whole?

LWOP is approved

 

[tskiman]

My building is finally sending the 5am shift home on admin leave. Seems like they are starting to slowly let a few people go home. Bout time

 

[CF]

Rand Paul gets a test with no symptoms and no known exposure. Whole buildings of us are getting exposed and we get nothing, people with symptoms in the hospital fighting for their lives, no tests. Cool.

edit: and he tested positive!

 

[Palmetto]

FRG just closed up shop ufn

 

[SugarFoot1]

We are having to open positions to make the crew art look good because there is no traffic and too many people here...governors shutting the whole state down though