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Kilo popa
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If you pass a sim in a building it’s good for life. Just ask N90. If you go past the 120 days you may need class room / lab time which you should. That’s a lot of time to not work airplanes. If you were genuinely concerned ask your rep not internet trolls. Act like you’ve been here before and are professional it’s pathetic to see how weak the work force is and unconfident right now.
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How can anyone be confident when you aren’t even allowed in the building and no one talks to you. Lol.
Kilo popa
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Reach out . Have a voice.
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Whenever you ask they don’t tell you shit lol
Kilo popa
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Because right now there is nothing. There is no airplanes and like everyone has said before they are not at a place to even warrant lab time. But... times are changing so be in the loop. States are opening even here in NY it’s opening so it will change. If anyone wanted anything done for training and everything else this is the time to be in the loop. It’s happening soon and it’ll happen fast.
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My states in like stage 4. You can go anywhere and you can make out with the hostess before you get your table.
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I've got it from a very knowledgeable source in the union that "there's a lot of talking going on" and if I speak facrep as well as I think I do that narrows the window to between June 15th and 2024 for when training will restart.
Its like everyone became supes over night and are scared to work traffic
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You shut your mouth! They became supervisors to make a difference! Not for less work, more pay and no accountability.
It blows my mind how all the ‘assumptions’ on what happens if you haven’t worked in so many days. Do you lose your cents, will you have to go back to class, are you decertified, etc.?
Go online and look up the 3120.4, it breaks it down on timeframes and what kind of training plan you’d need. From my recollection, if you are out more than 6 months you need to have a more in depth recertification plan.
Go online and look up the 3120.4, it breaks it down on timeframes and what kind of training plan you’d need. From my recollection, if you are out more than 6 months you need to have a more in depth recertification plan.
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Tells people to stop being stupid and look something up, then doesn’t look up that reference to make their point.
everyone is also quick to point out that nothing has exactly been “by-the-book” lately.
I was told on another thread rule 1 for supes is to be in charge of as many people as possible, not less and never give that up. And now you’re telling me supes want to do as little as possible. Which one is it I’ll never know!!!
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Chi-nahhh is not god. Closer to the devil. They unleashed this on the world through their reckless indifference and then even worse covered it up.
They love hanging on to that perceived power and control! I am important...I KNOWWWW thangz that are need to know and you are a pleb who will know when I say so. leave me alone on my days off! im just here for the official time
AGREE. Keep these little snot nosed boogar picking entitled millennials away. Work will be better that way!
Yes but was it the vaunted "Pre- 9/11 traffic" that the old geezers brag about? lol "you shoulda saw ol' Mikey work the DC9 push and those PanAms, was a thing of beauty! You damn kids, i refuse to fly down to the Villages, will take the Buick"
+BSTRFN
heavy bullshit, trolling, & fake news
Sweet. Now where is the guy to claim the FAA is going to furlough everyone and all trainees will be fired? lol In all seriousness I don't think training will return until pretty much all states are out of their phased social distancing protocols. I dont need some asshole self righteous psuedo know it all Union rep to tell me that. They aren't going to force trainers OR trainees to work close like that. Especialyl cuz the agency is largely run by weak/washed out/scared traffic dodging lightweights who surely fear the virus irrationally much like dontcha knowww Gretchen Whitmer or Tom Wolf the king of beta males.
"higher skill set"
the book is only THE BOOK when its convenient. Just look up the ol' hazard pay article. BTW have i mentioned, we deserve hazard pay? we are Entitled to it! Like superheroes w capes emblazened w capital E's on them. Most would probably be Triple XXXL size, but hey, being sedentary is something to brag about and beat your chest apparently. just ask the "BestJobinTheWorld" crowd or the Dallas diabetic guy crying about losing OT and on other side of mouf saying his lifespan is cut 15 years lol. Pass the shugga!
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“Tells people to stop being stupid and look something up, then doesn’t look up that reference to make their point.”
Let me guess Gen Z? Have someone else do their research for them? I don’t have to look it up, I know the information.
Per FAAO 3120.4 chapter 4. Of course refer to your local order for more specific requirements.
7. Recertification Procedures. Personnel who fail to meet currency requirements and those who are decertified on one or more operational position(s) must be recertified prior to resuming operational duties. To be recertified, the specialist must demonstrate, under direct supervision, the ability to satisfactorily perform operational duties during normal workload conditions. Recertification may be accomplished by individual position or a single action covering multiple positions at the discretion of the ATM or designee. If recertification is not achieved, the ATM or designee must take action in accordance with Agency guidelines.
a. Weather Observer Recertification. To recertify as a weather observer, personnel who have not taken an observation within 60 days must demonstrate proficiency to an FLM or their designee. Personnel who have not taken an observation within 90 days must retake the weather observer certification exam. Recertifications due to a performance deficiency must be entered on
FAA Form 3120-1, Section VI, Technical Appraisal. All other recertifications must be recorded on FAA Form 3120-1, Section III, Qualification Training.
b. Pilot Weather Briefer. Individuals certified as pilot weather briefers must comply with the proficiency check requirements established by the FAA and outlined in JO 7220.4, FAA Certification of Pilot Weather Briefing and En Route Flight Advisory Service.
c. Documentation. FAA Form 3120-25 or FAA Form 3120-26, FSS OJT Instruction/Evaluation Report, must be used to document recertification. Instructions for completing these forms are found in appendices B and C. Traffic Management Recertification(s) must be recorded on FAA Form 3120-32. Instructions for completing this form are found in appendix G. Recertification(s) must be recorded on FAA Form 3120-1, Section III. Recertification due to a performance deficiency must be entered on FAA Form 3120-1, Section VI, Technical Appraisal.
8. Recertification Hours. At the discretion of the TA, personnel who have worked an operational position within the last 120 days may be recertified and returned to operational duties without additional training. Prior to recertification evaluation, they may receive training including but not limited to instructor-led training, simulation training, and/or OJT. OJT hours must not exceed 25 percent of the target hours established for developmentals with no previous experience.
a. Personnel who have not worked an operational position in the last 120 days, but have done so in the last year, must receive instructor-led training, simulation training, and OJT prior to recertification. OJT hours must not exceed 50 percent of the target hours established for developmentals with no previous experience.
b. Personnel who have not worked an operational position for a year or more must receive instructor-led training, simulation training, and OJT prior to recertification. OJT hours must not exceed the target hours established for developmentals with no previous experience.
Let me guess Gen Z? Have someone else do their research for them? I don’t have to look it up, I know the information.
Per FAAO 3120.4 chapter 4. Of course refer to your local order for more specific requirements.
7. Recertification Procedures. Personnel who fail to meet currency requirements and those who are decertified on one or more operational position(s) must be recertified prior to resuming operational duties. To be recertified, the specialist must demonstrate, under direct supervision, the ability to satisfactorily perform operational duties during normal workload conditions. Recertification may be accomplished by individual position or a single action covering multiple positions at the discretion of the ATM or designee. If recertification is not achieved, the ATM or designee must take action in accordance with Agency guidelines.
a. Weather Observer Recertification. To recertify as a weather observer, personnel who have not taken an observation within 60 days must demonstrate proficiency to an FLM or their designee. Personnel who have not taken an observation within 90 days must retake the weather observer certification exam. Recertifications due to a performance deficiency must be entered on
FAA Form 3120-1, Section VI, Technical Appraisal. All other recertifications must be recorded on FAA Form 3120-1, Section III, Qualification Training.
b. Pilot Weather Briefer. Individuals certified as pilot weather briefers must comply with the proficiency check requirements established by the FAA and outlined in JO 7220.4, FAA Certification of Pilot Weather Briefing and En Route Flight Advisory Service.
c. Documentation. FAA Form 3120-25 or FAA Form 3120-26, FSS OJT Instruction/Evaluation Report, must be used to document recertification. Instructions for completing these forms are found in appendices B and C. Traffic Management Recertification(s) must be recorded on FAA Form 3120-32. Instructions for completing this form are found in appendix G. Recertification(s) must be recorded on FAA Form 3120-1, Section III. Recertification due to a performance deficiency must be entered on FAA Form 3120-1, Section VI, Technical Appraisal.
8. Recertification Hours. At the discretion of the TA, personnel who have worked an operational position within the last 120 days may be recertified and returned to operational duties without additional training. Prior to recertification evaluation, they may receive training including but not limited to instructor-led training, simulation training, and/or OJT. OJT hours must not exceed 25 percent of the target hours established for developmentals with no previous experience.
a. Personnel who have not worked an operational position in the last 120 days, but have done so in the last year, must receive instructor-led training, simulation training, and OJT prior to recertification. OJT hours must not exceed 50 percent of the target hours established for developmentals with no previous experience.
b. Personnel who have not worked an operational position for a year or more must receive instructor-led training, simulation training, and OJT prior to recertification. OJT hours must not exceed the target hours established for developmentals with no previous experience.
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Chi-nahhh is not god. Closer to the devil. They unleashed this on the world through their reckless indifference and then even worse covered it up.
They love hanging on to that perceived power and control! I am important...I KNOWWWW thangz that are need to know and you are a pleb who will know when I say so. leave me alone on my days off! im just here for the official time
AGREE. Keep these little snot nosed boogar picking entitled millennials away. Work will be better that way!
Yes but was it the vaunted "Pre- 9/11 traffic" that the old geezers brag about? lol "you shoulda saw ol' Mikey work the DC9 push and those PanAms, was a thing of beauty! You damn kids, i refuse to fly down to the Villages, will take the Buick"
+BSTRFN
heavy bullshit, trolling, & fake news
Sweet. Now where is the guy to claim the FAA is going to furlough everyone and all trainees will be fired? lol In all seriousness I don't think training will return until pretty much all states are out of their phased social distancing protocols. I dont need some asshole self righteous psuedo know it all Union rep to tell me that. They aren't going to force trainers OR trainees to work close like that. Especialyl cuz the agency is largely run by weak/washed out/scared traffic dodging lightweights who surely fear the virus irrationally much like dontcha knowww Gretchen Whitmer or Tom Wolf the king of beta males.
"higher skill set"
the book is only THE BOOK when its convenient. Just look up the ol' hazard pay article. BTW have i mentioned, we deserve hazard pay? we are Entitled to it! Like superheroes w capes emblazened w capital E's on them. Most would probably be Triple XXXL size, but hey, being sedentary is something to brag about and beat your chest apparently. just ask the "BestJobinTheWorld" crowd or the Dallas diabetic guy crying about losing OT and on other side of mouf saying his lifespan is cut 15 years lol. Pass the shugga!
Best post on this site so far.
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Shiznitt, this is the best laying the smack down post since The Rock, WWF Raw, 2002.Chi-nahhh is not god. Closer to the devil. They unleashed this on the world through their reckless indifference and then even worse covered it up.
They love hanging on to that perceived power and control! I am important...I KNOWWWW thangz that are need to know and you are a pleb who will know when I say so. leave me alone on my days off! im just here for the official time
AGREE. Keep these little snot nosed boogar picking entitled millennials away. Work will be better that way!
Yes but was it the vaunted "Pre- 9/11 traffic" that the old geezers brag about? lol "you shoulda saw ol' Mikey work the DC9 push and those PanAms, was a thing of beauty! You damn kids, i refuse to fly down to the Villages, will take the Buick"
+BSTRFN
heavy bullshit, trolling, & fake news
Sweet. Now where is the guy to claim the FAA is going to furlough everyone and all trainees will be fired? lol In all seriousness I don't think training will return until pretty much all states are out of their phased social distancing protocols. I dont need some asshole self righteous psuedo know it all Union rep to tell me that. They aren't going to force trainers OR trainees to work close like that. Especialyl cuz the agency is largely run by weak/washed out/scared traffic dodging lightweights who surely fear the virus irrationally much like dontcha knowww Gretchen Whitmer or Tom Wolf the king of beta males.
"higher skill set"
the book is only THE BOOK when its convenient. Just look up the ol' hazard pay article. BTW have i mentioned, we deserve hazard pay? we are Entitled to it! Like superheroes w capes emblazened w capital E's on them. Most would probably be Triple XXXL size, but hey, being sedentary is something to brag about and beat your chest apparently. just ask the "BestJobinTheWorld" crowd or the Dallas diabetic guy crying about losing OT and on other side of mouf saying his lifespan is cut 15 years lol. Pass the shugga!
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