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Correction: Were they "not paid" but continued to work?Controllers were not furloughed last year.
Correction: Were they "not paid" but continued to work?Controllers were not furloughed last year.
You’re an idiot if you think wearing a mask when nobody is sitting next to you vs. someone sitting next to you is the same thing.
Correct. It wasn’t a huge deal as everyone made it. There were a lot of options for $$ assistance during the time. No interest short term loans etc. Shit, one of my level eleven supervisors wife was on the news at a local food drive grabbing shit up from real people in need. Dude probably makes 190k plus a year with differentials.Correction: Were they "not paid" but continued to work?
Are we just supposed to wait until there’s a vaccine? Well they say that won’t be until at least early 2021, and even then, COVID is unlikely to be eradicated. The experts say this very well could end up becoming a reoccurring/season event like the flu. So if it never goes away, would you propose we just never train again? Your life is in mortal danger if we do isn’t it?
So then you are saying work is currently unsafe, but would be made more unsafe w trainees? A nuanced argument about relative degree of risk? Or just trying to troll more like.
Or maybe you are the only bubble boy controller who works in such a slow facility you dont have to get within distance of another human all shift.
you wonder why everyone thinks you're a complete moron.
I'd like to reiterate this question. Seems like it was skipped past.
Are we supposed to be afraid of the virus, or the fact that we might not have a hospital bed?
Why don't you reach out to Paul or Trish yourself and ask whats going on?The decisions (or lack thereof) are being made at the national level. Even the most helpful facrep or even an RVP can’t really do anything to help, or even share information when nothing is coming from the top. The ONLY information on training that’s come from national is one or two sentences in the monthly newsletter that says “the training hold has been extended.” There has been zero information on what is being discussed or what they are advocating for on the national level. It makes absolutely no sense why they can’t send out even a single email dedicated to the training situation.
But again, all you care about is the hazard pay because if they pay you hazard pay then your level of exposure gets magically reduced. That's why it's #TheBestJobintheWorld! Risk ceases to exist as long as you get hazard pay!
lol you are so simple in your analysis. not everything is black and white spider. for the very 5th time.... it is the norm to be compensated commensurate w the risk. Havent you ever worked OT and been totally fucking down the shitter with bare bone staffing getting your ass handed to you... but psychologically thought.... "well, im on OT I guess im earning my money" ? I have. I think that is normal human behavior. Yes, I am a hypocrite. If I am compensated, I am more willing to accept the risk. Have you nev er turned toa friend and said "How much would it take for you to __________ ?" and they say " a million dolalrs!" and both laugh? like normal humans who aren't message board robots? I am drinking hard in your honor today tho. you are my #1 nemesis it seems who I haven't blocked yet. keep the hits coming
Lmao what. Did H1N1 kill 125k people in 4 monthsIf it wasn't an election cycle none of this hysteria would have happened. See the H1N1 Flu from a few years back. All we would have would be an emphasis on washing hands/hygiene, etc and being told to stay at home if you're sick. Now that it is clear that many more people are asymptomatic carriers, the hospitalization rates and mortality rates are much lower than what is being advertised. But yet we have perfectly healthy people quarantining for no reason.
Its basically a flu strain which is mildly worse than influenza (which elderly people and those who have comorbidities, or are generally unhealthy die from all the time). We've made it so the cure has been worse than the virus. There was zero need to destroy the economy for this.
If it wasn't an election cycle none of this hysteria would have happened. See the H1N1 Flu from a few years back. All we would have would be an emphasis on washing hands/hygiene, etc and being told to stay at home if you're sick. Now that it is clear that many more people are asymptomatic carriers, the hospitalization rates and mortality rates are much lower than what is being advertised. But yet we have perfectly healthy people quarantining for no reason.
Its basically a flu strain which is mildly worse than influenza (which elderly people and those who have comorbidities, or are generally unhealthy die from all the time). We've made it so the cure has been worse than the virus. There was zero need to destroy the economy for this.
That said, with cases spiking around the nation, I don't think it's a great idea to just say fuck it bring everyone back in if it's not necessary. If things were trending down or flat still, you couldn't make the argument anymore, but that's not the case in about half the country. A phased plan based on individual state/local area numbers is the best option, I don't see why we aren't doing that.
Anyone taking the position that training will endanger them and therefore they can't/won't, should be wearing masks at work currently.... right? Whether they are on 10/5, 5/5, or normal schedule, if you are working in close quarters to others all unmasked, then i think it's fair to question your motives in saying we cant train.
I havent heard of 1 facility where everyone is wearing masks. The entire situation is a clusterfuck full of contradictions and hypocrisy. I know it's become an eye roller, but I honestly think the Agency has not mandated masks, because of the insanely obvious fact that we have a CBA that talks about hazard pay, and that would be the straw that breaks the hazard pay $$$ camel's back. Any deniability would be gone. Everything is always about money. None of this shit is about anyone's health. That's polyana bullshit happy talk. Money and politics.
Also, no way we can have training without all of the "high risk " ppl getting their asses back to work first. Until then how can it be safe to train? Theyll need a liver detox and have to be retrained first! I'm looking at YOU GulfCharlie