Government Shutdown

[32andBelow]

Correct. In fact Trump increased spending so much and decreased revenue so much that even if Biden hadn’t spent a penny since taking office, this debt ceiling would still need to be raised.

Fiscal conservative bruh. You wouldn’t understand

 

[Motodog]

Fiscal conservative bruh. You wouldn’t understan

Correct. In fact Trump increased spending so much and decreased revenue so much that even if Biden hadn’t spent a penny since taking office, this debt ceiling would still need to be raised.

Trump increased spending, true. But revenues hit all time highs as a result of the tax cuts. Source-investors.com

 

[DankVectorz]

Trump increased spending, true. But revenues hit all time highs as a result of the tax cuts. Source-investors.com

You should look at something more recent than 2018

Federal budget deficit hits $3.1 trillion, more than double the previous record

It is the government's largest annual shortfall, surpassing the previous record of $1.4 trillion set in 2009 after the financial crisis.

www.nbcnews.com

And here’s 2019, since I’m willing to give a mulligan for 2020 due to circumstances

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...ent-increase-during-trump-era/?outputType=amp

 

[Motodog]

You should look at something more recent than 2018

Federal budget deficit hits $3.1 trillion, more than double the previous record

It is the government's largest annual shortfall, surpassing the previous record of $1.4 trillion set in 2009 after the financial crisis.

www.nbcnews.com

No, the point was that revenues did increase. The way it works is facts don’t change over time lol

 

[32andBelow]

No, the point was that revenues did increase. The way it works is facts don’t change over time lol

So after a full year of the tax plans we had a 3 trillion dollar deficit. Lol. Wasn’t the plan sold as reducing down the debt/deficit over 10 years?

 

[DankVectorz]

No, the point was that revenues did increase. The way it works is facts don’t change over time lol

Ok, I’ll concede revenue increased, and spending increased at an even greater pace.

 

[Shikaka]

The whole Afghan campaign supposedly only cost $2.3 trillion. ROI sucks hard on that.


The "debt ceiling" is literally that, and it an archaic concept first started in 1917 and been highly politicized ever since. I think Denmark is the only other country that does it, and even then their ceiling is so high they'll never hit it.

I understand. But the point is all this hijacking the country over the budget/debt ceiling needs to end

Said it has been "highly politicized" in my original post.

No other western country has debt limits except like Denmark and theirs is eleventy gigabillion Krones so they don’t have to worry about it

Referenced Denmark as the only other country and they have an outrageously high ceiling in my original post.

 

[CF]

Said it has been "highly politicized" in my original post.

Referenced Denmark as the only other country and they have an outrageously high ceiling in my original post.

Bro you want me to read posts on this website before I respond??

 

[32andBelow]

quitting someone doesn’t mean you are immediately arguing with them. You can quote someone to add on an additional comment that is related.

 

[Shikaka]

Bro you want me to read posts on this website before I respond??

It is asking too much I know lol

No, the point was that revenues did increase. The way it works is facts don’t change over time lol

Tax revenues have always increased, even the 2008 recession only caused a loss of $410 billion over 5 years before rebounding significantly.

Meanwhile tax revenue by source has stagnated for corporations and grown for individual income taxes. In fact using the same source, indi ideal income has quadrupled as a source since 1934 while corporate sourcing has dropped, despite the U.S. becoming the economical superpower of the world.

 

[CF]

It is asking too much I know lol

I actually read your post but St Bernardus made me forget

 

[Shikaka]

I actually read your post but St Bernardus made me forget

In all honesty Denmark is quite a forgettable place on the heat of the moment

 

[Phillytroll69]

I actually read your post but St Bernardus made me forget

Damn good fall beer

 

[AB19]

It is asking too much I know lol

Tax revenues have always increased, even the 2008 recession only caused a loss of $410 billion over 5 years before rebounding significantly.

Meanwhile tax revenue by source has stagnated for corporations and grown for individual income taxes. In fact using the same source, indi ideal income has quadrupled as a source since 1934 while corporate sourcing has dropped, despite the U.S. becoming the economical superpower of the world.

But don't you know corporations are the best thing ever and make low paying jobs that make their employees collect benefits so our tax dollars actually subsidize them because socialism is cool for corporations!

 

[CF]

In all honesty Denmark is quite a forgettable place on the heat of the moment

Yeah Denmark definitely isn’t exciting, though the few Danes that I’ve known are good people.

Damn good fall beer

I drink that shit year round. Their Christmas beer gives me a semi. Look forward to it all year.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Yeah Denmark definitely isn’t exciting, though the few Danes that I’ve known are good people.

I drink that shit year round. Their Christmas beer gives me a semi. Look forward to it all year.

Germans make the best fall and winter beers change my mind.

 

[CF]

Germans make the best fall and winter beers change my mind.

Germans make the best of a lot of beers. I’d guess that most of them fall into a category that feels good to drink in the cooler months.

 

[CF]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1442895746190045191

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Germans make the best of a lot of beers. I’d guess that most of them fall into a category that feels good to drink in the cooler months.

This is also a true statement.

Nothing like a good dopplebock in the winter though.

 

[SpeediestYew]

So if you have pre-approved leave, can you request to be placed on furlough status instead?