Is switching from controller to supervisor for better money/transfer chances worth it?

Don’t forget about COLA. I did some quick math and they came up the same. (Yes, this years COLA is 7.5)

Retire at 20 years with a 200k avg 3 salary nets you a 68,000 pension. Last five years of COLA and you are up to 82k

Retire at 25 years with a 215k avg 3 salary nets you a 83,850k pension.
Pension-wise only yes, but you also get 5 more years of TSP contributions, and 130k/yr more income. A lot more than 130k really, because everywhere that can earn that much also is pretty much stuck working constant overtime + premiums.
 
Pension-wise only yes, but you also get 5 more years of TSP contributions, and 130k/yr more income. A lot more than 130k really, because everywhere that can earn that much also is pretty much stuck working constant overtime + premiums.
So you’re essentially trading the same pension to work 5 extra years is what he’s getting at. Yeah 5 years more into tsp would be 120k, and pay is still 215k you make a million more if you stay another five.

1million+120k tsp and same pension
Vs
Free life for 5 years, pension, no more quick turns, no more OT, no more being somewhere for shift work, no more nights without your 3rd wife, no more dealing with pilots, none of that. You get free time. You get to do whatever the fuck you want for 5 years before someone who stays in for an extra 5. And you both collect the same pension.

I’m out when I’m eligible, everyone should plan for that, money doesn’t mean anything when you die at 60.
 
So you’re essentially trading the same pension to work 5 extra years is what he’s getting at. Yeah 5 years more into tsp would be 120k, and pay is still 215k you make a million more if you stay another five.

1million+120k tsp and same pension
Vs
Free life for 5 years, pension, no more quick turns, no more OT, no more being somewhere for shift work, no more nights without your 3rd wife, no more dealing with pilots, none of that. You get free time. You get to do whatever the fuck you want for 5 years before someone who stays in for an extra 5. And you both collect the same pension.

I’m out when I’m eligible, everyone should plan for that, money doesn’t mean anything when you die at 60.
eh, you'll only die at 60 if you're an out of shape, unhealthy piece of crap.
I get it, I want to go asap, too, just don't know if it will be feasible. But you also can't just take one unusual set of years where pension raises were a lot higher than normal and act like that's gonna be the case every time, either.

Also, if the yearly pension COLA increase is over 2%, we get 1% less for our pension. A quick google says the actual number was 8.7%, so pension only got 7.7%. They purposefully try to chip away your purchasing power slowly, so you are forced to use your TSP eventually. The longer you're retired, the more years that eats away at your raises, and you started with less TSP also. Lots to consider.
 
Ima just tag on here and remind people-there are an effton of federal jobs. I mean you can work the gift shop at a national park and be broke, but still add 1% of high three.

You can find some admin job in the middle and 9-5 it with a 30 min unpaid lunch for 50k a year and still add 1% a year to pension.

You can retire and try to find outside employment and not touch your tsp.

I really feel like everyone has different situations and goals.

BUT we need to STOP extensions asap. They are going to use this against us at some point now that facilities are allowing 3 extensions a bill is going to come out and say people are living longer the mra should be 60
 
What if you joined at 30 like me but have 7 years of military time, can you work 23 years and the 7 makes it 30 then you get the 3 years past 20 count as 1.7?
This is a really good question, I’d would be amazing if this is the case. But I think you have to work to age 57 for 1.7% for all years
 
Article 60 doesn’t say anything about 10-12s. 124 does, but we’ve got two articles with two different facets of info so all the info is being intermingled.
 
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Article 60 doesn’t say anything about 10-12s. 124 does, but we’ve got two articles with two different facets of info so all the info is being intermingled.
Article 60 still says Ingrade/Downgrade. So unless you are just miserable after being stuck for 8 years as CPC, flexing this to move would be lateral at best.
 
Article 60 still says Ingrade/Downgrade. So unless you are just miserable after being stuck for 8 years as CPC, flexing this to move would be lateral at best.
I mean, it’s still a move and you could get out of wherever you’re at, and volley to a facility with fast check-outs and frequent transfers. It’s an option and it’s in there.
 
Another option to consider is working traffic/supe for 20 years, then doing another federal job till age 50 and retiring. You’d have the same pension as if you’d been a controller the whole time since the 1.7 stops after 20.

I got hired at 24 so I can retire at age 49 with 25 years ATC or age 50 with 20 years ATC. So I can do something else from age 44-50 and still only retire a year late. Actually 7 months since I got hired in May and my birthday is in December. Yeah, I’ve thought about it…

I've heard this plenty of times, but was always curious where the source was since most people don't even consider it as an option. Is there a source you can link that would provide information regarding this?

I've also been told it's difficult to do in practice for one reason or another, but maybe that's just because most people would rather have the higher paying job if they've been in it for that long.
 
you and so many others throw this line out without correct information. its for 10-12 levels and only INGRADE and DOWNGRADE. no one seems to take the time to actually read the rule.
 

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