Is switching from controller to supervisor for better money/transfer chances worth it?

Gotta get this out of your head. Doesn’t matter if you are best controller in the building to anyone up the food chain in upper management. You are a number, that’s it.

The only person that it may matter to about you being a good controller is the immediate supervisor on that shift, if they think
putting you at the more complex position will keep traffic flowing and them out of trouble. Otherwise it isn’t worth dick.

Hopefully at the end of screwing you over and throwing the weaker person on data or whatever, they at least remember enough to give you a decent ‘shove’ Otherwise they are just like the rest.

We are all just numbers.
This is 100% true, it’s why I put no additional effort into becoming “the best controller in the buildings” in terms of working traffic. As long as I (and you) are safe and not providing a terrible service, the June raise is 1.6% no matter how good or bad you are, and the January one is the same as everyone else in the government too.

This don’t mean that I don’t and you shouldn’t contribute to the facilities in other ways like doing some of the NATCA shit that is interesting to you, workgroups that can benefit the facility, recurrent training rep if you want to get away twice a year, etc…. but there is no incentive to become the best controller. We called them “Atlas Controllers” on here a few years back, guy who try ti take the whole facility operations on their shoulders.
 
This is 100% true, it’s why I put no additional effort into becoming “the best controller in the buildings” in terms of working traffic. As long as I (and you) are safe and not providing a terrible service, the June raise is 1.6% no matter how good or bad you are, and the January one is the same as everyone else in the government too.

This don’t mean that I don’t and you shouldn’t contribute to the facilities in other ways like doing some of the NATCA shit that is interesting to you, workgroups that can benefit the facility, recurrent training rep if you want to get away twice a year, etc…. but there is no incentive to become the best controller. We called them “Atlas Controllers” on here a few years back, guy who try ti take the whole facility operations on their shoulders.
What about the sense of pride in knowing you provided a sense of service to all the families hoping to get home? This new generation and their bare minimum attitudes.
 
yea it’s sad. Loser talk, honestly. Lol is no one competitive anymore?
That's what I'm saying you get to tell people that you're the best and have such a stressful job. Like I can't wait to go home and beat my dog and slam a bottle (only 1 hour to do it on the turns after all) after keeping sector's combined and getting no in trail. My wife loves me go getem attitude
 
That's what I'm saying you get to tell people that you're the best and have such a stressful job. Like I can't wait to go home and beat my dog and slam a bottle (only 1 hour to do it on the turns after all) after keeping sector's combined and getting no in trail. My wife loves me go getem attitude

Bruh. Stop the 🧢
 
If someone took a sup job to get out and didn’t care about losing seniority to go back to controller, what’s the soonest they could switch back to controller at their new facility? Likes what’s stopping someone from showing up day 1 and being like nah changed my mind don’t wanna be a sup?
 
ARTICLE 124 PRIORITY PLACEMENT

Section 1. Any employee at a Facility Pay Level 10-12, who has a minimum of fifteen (15) consecutive years as a CPC at his/her current facility, shall have attained priority placement status for inter-facility ingrade/downgrade bargaining unit vacancies/positions. The employee shall not normally be eligible to receive any permanent change of station (PCS) benefits unless the selection was made in conjunction with a vacancy announcement where PCS benefits were authorized. In that case, the individual requesting voluntary transfer shall be entitled to the same benefits as advertised on the vacancy announcement. The provisions of this Article do not apply for vacancies/positions that are filled in accordance with Article 42, Section 1(a) of this Agreement.

Section 2. Employees who meet the requirements of Section 1 may submit applications in accordance with Article 42, Section 5 of this Agreement. The front of each application must be clearly marked by the employee: "Filed under Article 124, Priority Placement, for a position at (specify facility identifier)." In addition, the employee shall forward a copy of the application to each facility to which the applicant desires consideration under this Agreement.

Section 3. Priority placement means the selection and placement of an employee in a specific bargaining unit position at a specific facility requested by the employee. Priority placement occurs prior to the consideration of candidates from all other competitive and non- competitive applications, but after placement of employees in accordance with law and Section 4 of HRPM EMP 1.9 (August 23, 2012), training failures, and hardship transfers.

Section 4. In the event that two (2) or more employees are entitled to priority placement status for a specific bargaining unit position at a specific facility, the Agency shall request that the Union provide the seniority ranking for each applicant and the most senior applicant shall be selected and placed in the position.

Section 5. Selected employees shall be released to begin their new positions as soon as practicable. This shall occur no later than six (6) months from the date of selection, unless otherwise requested by the employee, but in no case later than twelve (12) months from selection.

Section 6. Employee requests under this Article shall remain active for twenty-four (24) months. If no selection has been made within that period, the employee may reapply.

Section 7. If a priority placement status candidate is not placed in the vacancy, the Agency shall prepare a written narrative statement listing all reasons for non-placement. The Agency shall submit such written narrative to the employee’s Service Area Director with a copy to the employee and the Union at the employee’s current facility within seven (7) days of a non-placement determination.

This only available to ppl at a 10-12 is some bullshit. Thanks natca.
And that’s for priority placement RIGHTS which is not subject to staffing and is number three in priority behind hardships, then NEST. Meanwhile everyone else at a 9 and below gets some shitty priority consideration for in grade/downgrade after 8 years CPC, basically fucking useless if you’re at a 4,5 or 6 and wanting to head to a mid level facility.
 
If someone took a sup job to get out and didn’t care about losing seniority to go back to controller, what’s the soonest they could switch back to controller at their new facility? Likes what’s stopping someone from showing up day 1 and being like nah changed my mind don’t wanna be a sup?
They will accept it and have the return date in x amount of years
 
If someone took a sup job to get out and didn’t care about losing seniority to go back to controller, what’s the soonest they could switch back to controller at their new facility? Likes what’s stopping someone from showing up day 1 and being like nah changed my mind don’t wanna be a sup?
Well it used to be you could fail training...recently I've heard of sups being sent to be a sup at lower level facilities and NOT going back to controlling
 
Friend is a supe at an east coast Z, started regretting it less than 6mos in, has been looking at career options and has explicitly been told returning to be a controller is *not* an option. Not sure how true it is, or if it is true that it is nationwide
 
We have had two guys come back to controlling after being a sup in the past 4 years. Not sure the timeline though of when they requested it to when it happened.
 
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