That doesn’t help us on RDOs. The NATCA NCEPT page doesn’t have any official information about the new numbers, just the new timeline.
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If you’ve been red for 7 years than complain away
It's in the KSN site but it was really hard to find. I had to do a bunch of clicking around to find it by accident. Couldn't even tell you how to get to it again.
Ksn website. Priority placement program link on the left side. Scroll all the way to the bottom and find the icon that says weekly excel reports and click on it. Sort the list by modified date newer to older and it will be the first link updated yesterday.
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Why doesn't the 5/14 PPT show all those projection month columns and the possible releases with the highlighting? It doesn't represent anything they talked about yesterday or look like the chart they showed.
Heres the 5/14 PPT that I can find.
Heres the 5/14 PPT that I can find.
Unless, they start forcing multiple AGs from every terminal list to facilities like CPR they will never in a hundred years be able to release.
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We can’t get any more devs because we’re at 30% dev/cpc right now and the number of devs we have based on the data they are using isn’t even enough to get to 85%. Meaning we literally can’t get enough people in the door to train to project to 85%
Yep, these low level up/downs will never release again without changing the academy placement back
Only seven updowns in the top 50 facilities with the highest CPC to target %
29 in the bottom 50
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Not if you don't want people to move
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Well can anyone post the priority of facilities for pickups if they get the chance? My facility can release a couple and it will all depend on where each gaining facility is ranked.
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I am curious as to why there are so many "low level blackholes". All the academy grads from the past 5+ years have gone to 7 and below and centers. The 8,9 and 10s were hung out to dry. All the people from low levels were bouncing straight to the 11 and 12s. The majority of releases came out of the 7 and below facilities. I know MAF is a train wreck, who is in this boat?
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There are over 100 updowns. Those are generally the blackholes. Most the releases come out of tower onlys because they have a quick turnover rate. 4 month checkout makes it pretty easy to get staffing fast.
At the updowns, average training time is 1.5 yearsish. Just enough time for people to get impatient and apply to sup bids, hardship, or quit. Not all the updowns are black holes but a lot of them are, at least 50 out of the 100. And there are definitely a few tower onlys that are tough to get released from too.
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Anyone read the priority MOU rules? Says you need to be CPC at facility for at least 12 months in order to be eligible for round 1. What about those priority MOU facilities that are selecting before round 1 Such as DCA and AUS and then A80/MIA/ZOA? Do those controllers also have to be CPC for 12 months to be eligible?
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I would guess that they would not have to do 12 months before going to those as those facilities choose “before” round 1 but that’s just a guess as they seemed to make it pretty clear those 6 facilities are picking before round 1, which definitely has the 12 month rule.
The SharePoint literally has a new PPT every Wednesday. It's right there in the folder that says weekly reports. The updated targets were even on the Academy placement SharePoint sites on Monday morning.
Because you're describing the new ETT report.
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Well somebody post that. Message boards save me
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We absolutely DO NOT need more controllers. I’ve been at our facility (in my earlier days) when we were 100% staffed to target and we were tripping over each other then. Our number went up by 10… Absolutely no reason we need that many people.
Moral of that story, these metrics that were collaboratively used were there to manufacture a more severe staffing crisis and lock everybody down. Tell me I’m wrong.
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