August 2025

[Acquired Taste]

Have you tried telling McIntosh the solution to all his staffing problems is to go from 10k CPCs to 8k CPCs?

They don't have to worry about that. According to the amount of ERRs in the system, hardly anyone wants to move anyway! Doubt we'd see anything more than a slight uptick in submissions if 32andBelow had their way. /s

 

[Gauff]

Nick fired Rinaldi

Only after Rinaldi secured his high paying job at A4A....

 

[Jayyy Jayyy]

Judging by the commentary here there’s at least one NCEPT rep on here…

Question for you: what’s going on with this “composite score”?

 

[32andBelow]

Judging by the commentary here there’s at least one NCEPT rep on here…

Question for you: what’s going on with this “composite score”?

Just goes into a black box where fuckery happens. Every layer that’s added the more dumb it gets

 

[Phillytroll69]

Judging by the commentary here there’s at least one NCEPT rep on here…

Question for you: what’s going on with this “composite score”?

Just goes into a black box where fuckery happens. Every layer that’s added the more dumb it gets

Nope. The union gets some say on adding points with the ATM in case someone looks good on paper. Management can't really give official bad reviews but rep to rep is different. Why would be judged on just our skill and education when networking is so helpful

 

[Spoony90]

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All open slots at facilities should be run on a bid. And if it’s hard to staff then they get move money or some other stipend. The answer is simple, but NCEPT was negotiated and therefore is better. Controllers are hard pressed to waste their time filing paperwork that means nothing other than a number on a spreadsheet for NATCA or the FAA to work off of. I get the idea behind it but some of these places are 10+ years before they’re able to release via this method.

Allowing bids on any open position, controller or supervisor, would make sure qualified candidates that want to be somewhere put their name in the hat, rather than the shotgun ERR approach NCEPT takes.

I been at my facility 9 years. Haven’t released anyone on NCEPT. And we ain’t releasing anyone in, easily the next 5 years. I been trying to get out since day one.

 

[Nothanks]

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I been at my facility 9 years. Haven’t released anyone on NCEPT. And we ain’t releasing anyone in, easily the next 5 years. I been trying to get out since day one.

Me too. 12 years

 

[ZB32]

New timeline posted on NATCA site. Let me get this straight are they attempting to make it further more difficult to release now?

 

[Phillytroll69]

New timeline posted on NCEPT. Let me get this straight are they attempting to make it further more difficult to release now?

Update says?

 

[ZB32]

Update says?

Not NATCA?

 

[Phillytroll69]

Not NATCA?

Oh I forgot its there too

 

[Nothanks]

Quick math shows 20% of total facilities can release

35% of centers are releasable

 

[jm20]

Quick math shows 20% of total facilities can release

35% of centers are releasable

Can you share which facilities/centers? I don’t have access yet

 

[Nothanks]

Can you share which facilities/centers? I don’t have access yet

Don’t have access to the Natca site ? And the Ncept tab?

 

[GroundClutter]

Don’t have access to the Natca site ? And the Ncept tab?

On no bro - someone doesn't pay the social club while they gatekeep the ability to transfer.

 

[Nothanks]

On no bro - someone doesn't pay the social club while they gatekeep the ability to transfer.

Huh? He said he doesn’t have access yet. I’m trying to understand what he’s waiting on access for

 

[jm20]

Don’t have access to the Natca site ? And the Ncept tab?

Haven’t joined yet bc someone told me you can still do err/ncept without joining. Realizing there’s a lot of info being missed out on though…

 

[FullLengthFrank]

Haven’t joined yet bc someone told me you can still do err/ncept without joining. Realizing there’s a lot of info being missed out on though…

Ksn2.faa.gov

This website has the rules, ppt, and everything else related to NCEPT.

 

[Phillytroll69]

Haven’t joined yet bc someone told me you can still do err/ncept without joining. Realizing there’s a lot of info being missed out on though…

The ett is the ppt with some projected numbers out to a year. Everything else is the same.

So basically the November panel is cancelled? They said postponed but are changing the initial rules.

 

[Move78]

New timeline posted on NATCA site. Let me get this straight are they attempting to make it further more difficult to release now?

Buddy they’ve been trying to do that every day for the last 9 years