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[32andBelow]

I am absolutely in favor splitting a sector vs. a team.

But that would require giving up 5/5 in many places

 

[spider]

But that would require giving up 5/5 in many places

I don’t see it that way.

 

[32andBelow]

I don’t see it that way.

My area doesn’t really have staffing to split sectors that’s why they brought us back.

 

[OKbusyB]

My area doesn’t really have staffing to split sectors that’s why they brought us back.

In our weekly meeting today, we were told to “prepare to be recalled sometime soon because it’s starting to pick back up and more sectors are having to be opened.”

Timothy Arel, Deputy COO of the ATO, and Trish Gilbert, NATCA VP, were on the call for ~ 30 min. They both said “we will resume training sometime soon.” Trish talked a lot about securing funding for the FAA past the fiscal year by “putting pressure on the hill to source funding for the trust fund” and that “we want to keep you all on the books.” Confirmed that they’re testing out face shields for training.

Overall, the vibe was that they’re working on finding a solution, but their hands are still somewhat tied with COVID numbers on the up spike. A lot of be patient and keep the faith talk.

 

[Soss]

Sometime soon... lmao

 

[OKbusyB]

Sometime soon... lmao

Ya that’s all they would give us.

 

[ABACUS]

In our weekly meeting today, we were told to “prepare to be recalled sometime soon because it’s starting to pick back up and more sectors are having to be opened.”

Timothy Arel, Deputy COO of the ATO, and Trish Gilbert, NATCA VP, were on the call for ~ 30 min. They both said “we will resume training sometime soon.” Trish talked a lot about securing funding for the FAA past the fiscal year by “putting pressure on the hill to source funding for the trust fund” and that “we want to keep you all on the books.” Confirmed that they’re testing out face shields for training.

Overall, the vibe was that they’re working on finding a solution, but their hands are still somewhat tied with COVID numbers on the up spike. A lot of be patient and keep the faith talk.

what is this call you speak of?

 

[DankVectorz]

Sometime soon... lmao

sorry pandemics don’t conform to your schedule

 

[OKbusyB]

what is this call you speak of?

The head of our virtual learning invites guest speakers every Thursday. I guess he somehow got in contact with them to come on and talk a little about what’s going on.

 

[StealthChain]

Does anyone have any clues as to how training will look, at least for centers, once trainees do return? I figure there will be a bit of a backlog in the sims causing an even further delay.

Do we stick with the traditional routine and sit around for a while until it's our turn or is it possible they would split up trainees into night/day that way they can spread out the amount of sims they are able to do, providing a quicker catch-up on training? I realize this brings questions/issues like, are there enough instructors/RPO's to allow for this? Would they be willing to pay the trainees night diff or will trainees be willing to accept a night shift without the diff (does the contract even allow that?).

 

[OKbusyB]

Does anyone have any clues as to how training will look, at least for centers, once trainees do return? I figure there will be a bit of a backlog in the sims causing an even further delay.

Do we stick with the traditional routine and sit around for a while until it's our turn or is it possible they would split up trainees into night/day that way they can spread out the amount of sims they are able to do, providing a quicker catch-up on training? I realize this brings questions/issues like, are there enough instructors/RPO's to allow for this? Would they be willing to pay the trainees night diff or will trainees be willing to accept a night shift without the diff (does the contract even allow that?).

We are all Jon Snow. We know nothing.

 

[CF]

We have a couple center washouts that have to go to the academy. Feel bad for them they probably won’t start ojt until next year.

 

[Soss]

sorry pandemics don’t conform to your schedule

I hope you get covid

 

[mnsalty]

Timothy Arel, Deputy COO of the ATO, and Trish Gilbert, NATCA VP, were on the call for ~ 30 min. They both said “we will resume training sometime soon.” Trish talked a lot about securing funding for the FAA past the fiscal year by “putting pressure on the hill to source funding for the trust fund” and that “we want to keep you all on the books.” Confirmed that they’re testing out face shields for training.

feel free to drag me over the coals for this - but this basically implies what I’ve said from day 1. Furloughs aren’t not being talked about.

 

[DankVectorz]

I hope you get covid

Well that seems a bit extreme. And you wonder why people don’t want to go to bat for you?

 

[CF]

Well that seems a bit extreme. And you wonder why people don’t want to go to bat for you?

being in NY you’ve probably already had it

 

[Phillytroll69]

feel free to drag me over the coals for this - but this basically implies what I’ve said from day 1. Furloughs aren’t not being talked about.

Not even trolling, it's a big club and we ain't it. I think we are probably safe--but how far down does it trickle? Are people that got a week at the academy safe? Money printer goes brrr for the millionaires and politicians and their families, but not for the fed employees?

 

[32andBelow]

feel free to drag me over the coals for this - but this basically implies what I’ve said from day 1. Furloughs aren’t not being talked about.

It’s just trish being dramatic that natca is actually doing something. The wouldn’t have reopened the academy

 

[fknlo]

We’re (ZDV) going back to 5/2 on the 19th. Since the schedule was originally created to keep as many people out of the building, I’d highly suggest putting pressure on local NATCA, management, etc on a timetable to bring trainees back. Just saying.

I've heard from multiple supervisors and union people that one of the big drivers of this is the people complaining about "workload", holiday pay, differentials, and all that other dumb shit. The morning people on my crew have been bitching nonstop about how busy they are and how they're having to split sectors for weeks now and we're pulling their TOP and some of them are hitting 4.5 hours a day. The horror. I'm going to be openly hostile to the people that I know have been pushing a return to normal schedules when we get back to them. Fuck them.

Two positives and ATC-Zero, seems like going BWS is definitely the wisest move

Gotta OPEN ER UP!

 

[Super Salt]

I've heard from multiple supervisors and union people that one of the big drivers of this is the people complaining about "workload", holiday pay, differentials, and all that other dumb shit. The morning people on my crew have been bitching nonstop about how busy they are and how they're having to split sectors for weeks now and we're pulling their TOP and some of them are hitting 4.5 hours a day. The horror. I'm going to be openly hostile to the people that I know have been pushing a return to normal schedules when we get back to them. Fuck them.



Gotta OPEN ER UP!

Make sure you get FUCKING HOSTILE!