admin/excused/annual

[Stinger]

So one of the main points that was discussed/ordered by AJT leadership on a telecon today was how if you're in a duty status of admin/excused for a shift you are expected to be recallable. If you won't be available to come in, you need to take some form of leave. If you're recalled, and you are away and unable to report, because it wasn't approved leave it can/should be coded as AWOL.
The example was someone on an excused 3pm-11pm shift. If that person is called at 4pm to come into work, taking into account the normal commute time, they are expected to show up and work.

Do with that what you will, but seemed to be the topic of the day.

 

[ClearanceClarence]

Basically our rep made it sound like you can do whatever you want as long as you can show up within 24 hrs notice.

 

[Horny4Vectors]

Which is how admin has always been. Has anyone, ever been called an hour into their admin shift and been told to come in right now?

 

[Stinger]

Which is how admin has always been. Has anyone, ever been called an hour into their admin shift and been told to come in right now?

Which is why I think there was some reasoning that wasn't mentioned on why this was being discussed. Probably happened somewhere.

 

[Mike Kilo]

I was recalled once to come in same day, as a trainee lol. But since then, I plan on the 24 hour notice thing and don’t answer my phone. We are also not listed as specific shifts so that’s a little different than some facilities.

 

[Stinger]

I was recalled once to come in same day, as a trainee lol. But since then, I plan on the 24 hour notice thing and don’t answer my phone. We are also not listed as specific shifts so that’s a little different than some facilities.

When the schedule is made, the WX shift is actually a WX<15> for a 3pm shift. Or whatever it is locally for your facility. A 7am shift would be something like a WX<7>
That's how they get the night differential pay correct on the excused absences. It doesn't show the shift in WebScheduler, but it filters into Cru-ART correctly.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Well when they call and I've already cracked a beer or am busy living my life I'll be sick.

 

[Mike Kilo]

When the schedule is made, the WX shift is actually a WX<15> for a 3pm shift. Or whatever it is locally for your facility. A 7am shift would be something like a WX<7>
That's how they get the night differential pay correct on the excused absences. It doesn't show the shift in WebScheduler, but it filters into Cru-ART correctly.

That could be right. I haven’t received night diff the last two checks, and I’d bet when I look tomorrow it will not have any either. Web schedule just shows admin leave last I looked.

 

[Stinger]

Well when they call and I've already cracked a beer or am busy living my life I'll be sick.

You don't sit on the couch waiting for the call to come in?

 

[32andBelow]

Well when they call and I've already cracked a beer or am busy living my life I'll be sick.

Flight crews get in trouble for the old bang out when your called in for reserve. Cus you didn’t call out sick before your res shift started.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

Flight crews get in trouble for the old bang out when your called in for reserve. Cus you didn’t call out sick before your res shift started.

Well I guess it's good I'm not flight crew then huh?

 

[32andBelow]

Well I guess it's good I'm not flight crew then huh?

It just reminded me of it. I didn’t accuse you of being a flight attendant ?

 

[Mike Kilo]

They can’t expect much when they haven’t briefed me what is expected as far as recall. I asked before I left and they shrugged. Guess I’ll shrug when the call comes in.

 

[Wizard]

I had a couple days of annual that fell on our 5 days off a couple weeks ago and I'm being told I'm shit out of luck and being charged for it. I forgot about it since I'm really only checking what days I work currently on this schedule i didnt bid.

 

[Mike Kilo]

I had a couple days of annual that fell on our 5 days off a couple weeks ago and I'm being told I'm shit out of luck and being charged for it. I forgot about it since I'm really only checking what days I work currently on this schedule i didnt bid.

Lol yah, if you didn’t cancel them it’s annual. Reps should have made that clear when this all started. I know I text a few people and warned them as well.

 

[Peter Gibbons]

I had a couple days of annual that fell on our 5 days off a couple weeks ago and I'm being told I'm shit out of luck and being charged for it. I forgot about it since I'm really only checking what days I work currently on this schedule i didnt bid.

That sounds very grievable to me.

 

[Phillyman2633]

Well when they call and I've already cracked a beer or am busy living my life I'll be sick.

With all the alcohol I have pumping through my system at any given time after being off for going on 3 months now, I'm gonna need a solid 4 or 5 days before it'll metabolize out and I can report.

 

[Wizard]

That sounds very grievable to me.

I mean its my fault i guess for not canceling it. No one was recalled during the time.

 

[Mike Kilo]

I don’t see what grievance you would have. It’s not like a shutdown where leave is a paid status and can not be approved.

 

[32andBelow]

Vacationing on the admin leave is basically a gamble since you can be recalled.