Hiring Bid Air Traffic Control Specialist - Trainee: FAA-ATO-18-ALLSRCE-57792

bomber996

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What's the potential change with the per diem?
FAA getting rid of self-pay option starting 6/1. Basically becomes use it or lose it. Gone are the days of pocketing extra per-diem, or so I've been told. Ask your housing provider if they've heard the same.
 

njeezy08

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FAA getting rid of self-pay option starting 6/1. Basically becomes use it or lose it. Gone are the days of pocketing extra per-diem, or so I've been told. Ask your housing provider if they've heard the same.
Which provider told you this? This would def change who I'm staying with if that's the case.
 

bomber996

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It's coming from providers and friends I have at the Academy currently. Anyone starting after 6/1 will not have a self-pay option.
 

njeezy08

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Looks like some of the providers are giving a "wait and see" answer with the per diem, as it isn't quite official according to them.
 

flymke

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Theoretically housing providers could just collect the full amount from the FAA and run a deal where they pay you something like $15 a day cash to stay there.
 

StealthChain

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Theoretically housing providers could just collect the full amount from the FAA and run a deal where they pay you something like $15 a day cash to stay there.
Theoretically, yes. But why would they? Sure it can be incentive, but that only works if others aren't full. There are occasionally vacancy issues where you don't quite have every option available.
 

twn

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Theoretically housing providers could just collect the full amount from the FAA and run a deal where they pay you something like $15 a day cash to stay there.
They arent going to do that. These people are greedy and already make a killing off the government's dime.
 

schiff

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Forgive my ignorance but could someone please explain the per diem thing? What is the "self pay" mentioned above? I was meaning to ask about how the per diem was typically paid out but its slipped my mind until seeing this - is it paid on a weekly basis? Biweekly? Do you get the full $95.xx automatically or do you need to provide some kind of housing proof/receipt? Do they send it as a check or..?

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Air Traffic Control Specialist (ATCS) New Hire Information

This link seems to explain it, or at least how it works now? The way it's worded though makes it sound like they switch your rent from your personal credit card to their FAA one, so you're not actually paying (getting cash back on your card) and then being reimbursed. If it is changing, how would that be affected?
 
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vinheim

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For those of us stuck in waiting limbo: does anyone else's CIL say 90 days to complete everything? I'm assuming that means 90 days to go to all the appts and fill out the SF-86 and all that stuff. It doesn't include waiting for the clearances to actually pass, right? lol
 

Etney

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For those of us stuck in waiting limbo: does anyone else's CIL say 90 days to complete everything? I'm assuming that means 90 days to go to all the appts and fill out the SF-86 and all that stuff. It doesn't include waiting for the clearances to actually pass, right? lol
You need to finish everything on your end and get it to them within the 90 days, that's it. Everything on their end such as the clearances are irrelevant to that.
 

kirin

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For those of us stuck in waiting limbo: does anyone else's CIL say 90 days to complete everything? I'm assuming that means 90 days to go to all the appts and fill out the SF-86 and all that stuff. It doesn't include waiting for the clearances to actually pass, right? lol
Yes 90 days to complete. Waiting for clearances can be 90-999 days.
 

LA CA

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I am from the 2017 bid but I wanted to share my experience just to provide a possible timeline.

Separated from USN 2/2017 (Only qualified on Ground, PARs, and FD/CD before getting out)
Applied to Academy Bid 7/2017
AT-SA 10/2017
Terminal TOL 12/2017
Drug Test 4/13/2018
Aviation Physical 4/13/2018
Notified of Conditional Clearance Denial Due to invalid debt caused by clerical error (seriously) 4/20/2018
Submitted Appropriate Documentation 4/25/2018
Nothing
Nothing
Nothing
Gave up
Drug Test Expiration 4/25/2019
Drug Test 4/30/2019
FOL 5/6/19

Start date 6/5/2019
 

Itsallgucci

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I am from the 2017 bid but I wanted to share my experience just to provide a possible timeline.

Separated from USN 2/2017 (Only qualified on Ground, PARs, and FD/CD before getting out)
Applied to Academy Bid 7/2017
AT-SA 10/2017
Terminal TOL 12/2017
Drug Test 4/13/2018
Aviation Physical 4/13/2018
Notified of Conditional Clearance Denial Due to invalid debt caused by clerical error (seriously) 4/20/2018
Submitted Appropriate Documentation 4/25/2018
Nothing
Nothing
Nothing
Gave up
Drug Test Expiration 4/25/2019
Drug Test 4/30/2019
FOL 5/6/19

Start date 6/5/2019
Where you notified of your medical clearance in this time frame? I was told I didn't qualify on the conditional security clearance "at this time" but given absolutely ZERO details as to why, for how long, and what to do next. I'm trying to get answers now but of course my security POC is horrible at communicating. My credit score is in the 700s. I had my student loan in forbearance but finally on a income-based repayment plan. Still no word from whether or not i've been cleared. FRUSTRATING AS HELL
 

DL0509

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If you aren't granted a conditional clearance, it means they will complete the entire background check before they make a determination. A full background could take a year plus.
 

LA CA

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Where you notified of your medical clearance in this time frame? I was told I didn't qualify on the conditional security clearance "at this time" but given absolutely ZERO details as to why, for how long, and what to do next. I'm trying to get answers now but of course my security POC is horrible at communicating. My credit score is in the 700s. I had my student loan in forbearance but finally on a income-based repayment plan. Still no word from whether or not i've been cleared. FRUSTRATING AS HELL
I never received any notification that I was medically cleared. However, I knew that my piss test was clean, and at the completion of my flight physical the Flight Doc said there were no issues (just a recommendation I lose weight, which I have been doing), so I was not concerned about anything medical.
 

LA CA

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If you aren't granted a conditional clearance, it means they will complete the entire background check before they make a determination. A full background could take a year plus.
Yeah I was aware it would be a while. The Navy taught me to always expect disappointment when dealing with the gov.
 
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