Anyone have any more info on this? I know in his videos he and Jamaal said they will be opening the contract because they have the most experience and can negotiate with anyone. Then I heard at the NEB meeting proposed extending it to 2029?
Yah I never heard that nick called the vote. It sounds like rich called the vote. However you can see the rich alliance doesn’t want the extension and the nick alliance does.Do we know for sure that Daniels instigated the idea and vote? If so Mick or whoever better expose it and clearly point the finger at him. If Daniels don’t deny it, then we can assume it’s true and yes, his campaign will be done.
Call or email them, they almost for sure won’t respond, but they need to know how pissed we are. The guy below has a Telcon, that would be a first if they are going to blast out info this quick on a pop up subject other then government shut downs, hopefully he posts what they say.Are people contacting their RVPs to know what's up with this? Is that even allowed? I've never once spoke to mine but this has me fired up enough to do it. If it's really true, we should all be contacting the RVPs that signed their name to extend, not just blame Daniels for it. But I do hope it still destroys his campaign.
I hope everyone jumps down these dudes throats. NATCA & the neb is a joke if this is true.Call or email them, they almost for sure won’t respond, but they need to know how pissed we are. The guy below has a Telcon, that would be a first if they are going to blast out info this quick on a pop up subject other then government shut downs, hopefully he posts what they say.
If you have the story just share it brother. Knowledge is powerMy RVP held a meeting with Facreps explaining the full story and has a membership call today to do the same with everyone. I would definitely reach out to your RVP
I heard there wasn't even an offer or conversation about an extension from Whitaker. It was all a Rich hypothetical situation.I still encourage everyone to reach out to their RVPs but what I was told by mine is summarized as follows:
Rich Santa went to Whitaker saying he wanted to open up contract negotiations. Whitaker said no because he doesn’t have the resources because there are around 8 different contracts being negotiated by the government right now so all the lawyers are tied up with that. Whitaker said what he can offer is extending the Slate Book until 2029 with the option of a mutual reopening in 2026. Rich brought the offer to the NEB. The NEB unanimously voted to table the decision until they could gather more information (basically get an idea if Trump is going to win). Some were concerned that Whitaker may give Rich an ultimatum of either accept this now or you will have negotiate in 2026 regardless. Nick Daniels motioned a vote on what they should do if Rich was given this ultimatum. They voted 7-4 to approve (Nick being one of the 7) the extension if it was an ultimatum situation.
Rich said with his own mouth on camera that he was offered this extensionI heard there wasn't even an offer or conversation about an extension from Whitaker. It was all a Rich hypothetical situation.
I don't think the FAA is even interested in offering an extension at this point. I think they want to go to the table. We have essentially zero support from the Executive branch at this point anyway. It will be the FAA vs Us, even with Biden still in office. And the FAA hates us.
The Rich and Nick alliance.Yah I never heard that nick called the vote. It sounds like rich called the vote. However you can see the rich alliance doesn’t want the extension and the nick alliance does.
They need to make like a power move at some point and force the issue. which it sounds like the rich alliance might want to do. But the nick alliance does not.I wonder if they have discussed the angle of combining is with Staff or Region X or both, and not needing more lawyers to work the negotiations.
Rich said with his own mouth on camera that he was offered this extension
Interesting!!!I was told Rich went to Whitaker saying you have these two other books (purple and whatever the other one is) open right now, why don’t we open up the slate book and that was Whittaker’s response.
Kinda what I was thinking as well. Why bother opening it if the FAA doesn’t have to. If Biden is still in they don’t really have motivation. It’s definitely gonna cost them.If the contract is extended until 2029 there I’ll not be a scenario where mutually they will agree to open in 26’. If Trump wins NATCA won’t, if Biden wins the FAA won’t.