Hiring Bid FAA-ATO-19-ALLSRCE-61676

whiskey said:
Just did a quick tally of replies to satisfy my curiosity. Can't promise I didn't miscount so take it with a grain of salt.

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Caveats:
- I assumed all non-referrals were pool 2 and sorted the responses that way. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
- Anyone anywhere can make accounts and say whatever they want, as many times as they want on this forum. Again, take it with a grain of salt.
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There were some people in Pool 2 with BQ that didn't get referred?
 
dwass001 said:
P1 qualified, does anyone think I have a chance getting a TOL, I was referred
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It’s tough to say I knew some people who went to a CTI conference last summer and the FAA told them that based on their data they only pick best qualified and well qualified applicants because according to them those people have the highest chances of success at the academy. Take that with a grain of salt though, nobody really knows what the FAA is up to. One of them said they were surprised nobody can do mental math but in my opinion the test doesn’t give you enough time to solve those math problems during the collisions section. We’ll just have to see how this plays out because the FAA is taking a lot of pressure with not hitting their hiring numbers.
 
You actually have plenty of time to solve the mental math equations if you solve the collisions fast enough. You dont need much time.
 
It seems like only a percentage of best qualified applicants from pool 2 will get TOLs. Someone mentioned that they only like to hire well qualified and best qualified candidates. This year it seems like they only referred people from pool 2 who scored best qualified. To me this implies that Pool 1 is significantly smaller (which happened last year) so much so that they didn't even want to waste time referring some people who scored best qualified in pool 2. Given that they can only hire a 10% difference in the groups, it would make sense that they refer about the same amount of people from each group. If so and considering it seems a decent amount of pool 1 candidates were referred with less than best qualified scores, there is likely very few Pool 1 candidates that score at least well qualified (at least comparatively). Of course we'll find out soon enough but just thought I'd put out my theory that is helping me keep my hopes down.
 
homeslice said:
It’s tough to say I knew some people who went to a CTI conference last summer and the FAA told them that based on their data they only pick best qualified and well qualified applicants because according to them those people have the highest chances of success at the academy. Take that with a grain of salt though, nobody really knows what the FAA is up to. One of them said they were surprised nobody can do mental math but in my opinion the test doesn’t give you enough time to solve those math problems during the collisions section. We’ll just have to see how this plays out because the FAA is taking a lot of pressure with not hitting their hiring numbers.
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I’m sure “Dynamic Decisions” will be made to cater to whatever the FAA wants to do at the time.
 
P1-Q-R. Honestly feel like I aced the entire first section. Only had about 5-6 collisions, did all the math, thinking 70-75% of the math I did was right, and only missed 4 spacial relationships. However, the logic problems and reading comprehension was a complete disaster. I ran out of time for the last question of the logic problems, and had to guess on the last 4 of the reading comprehension so that I didn’t run out of time. I’m keeping my hopes up but if anyone can recommend anything other than LSAT to better prepare please let me know. Something that would start basic and then get more complicated as it progresses. Good luck to all of us! 🙂
 
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If the hiring numbers on the last FAA summary are accurate then they are planning for 907 controllers-

doing the math I got :

476 Pool 1s and 431 Pool 2s
(I assumed that Pool 1's will always have the 10% difference bonus in their favor so this is the worst case but likeliest scenario for Pool 2)

Do we have any other numbers as to how many applied/qualified/got referred? Would be able to approximate better numbers with that as well.

Also is stuckmic mostly dead? Just took a look around on their ATC Bids page and couldn't really find anything as active as here.
 
zealforce said:
If the hiring numbers on the last FAA summary are accurate then they are planning for 907 controllers-

doing the math I got :

476 Pool 1s and 431 Pool 2s
(I assumed that Pool 1's will always have the 10% difference bonus in their favor so this is the worst case but likeliest scenario for Pool 2)

Do we have any other numbers as to how many applied/qualified/got referred? Would be able to approximate better numbers with that as well.

Also is stuckmic mostly dead? Just took a look around on their ATC Bids page and couldn't really find anything as active as here.
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Take that with a grain of salt, last hiring bid of people who received a TOL was way below the projected target. You would think they’ll send out more TOL, to try to compensate for people that decline the offer, or fail something over the medical or background period, but they don’t. And I believe they never have.

There’s a lot of hopeful people. But with the FAA, you have to let this take its course.
 
zealforce said:
If the hiring numbers on the last FAA summary are accurate then they are planning for 907 controllers-

doing the math I got :

476 Pool 1s and 431 Pool 2s
(I assumed that Pool 1's will always have the 10% difference bonus in their favor so this is the worst case but likeliest scenario for Pool 2)

Do we have any other numbers as to how many applied/qualified/got referred? Would be able to approximate better numbers with that as well.

Also is stuckmic mostly dead? Just took a look around on their ATC Bids page and couldn't really find anything as active as here.
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There are various other hiring sources than OTS bids. The entirety of the 907 hired goal does not come from one bid.
 
zealforce said:
If the hiring numbers on the last FAA summary are accurate then they are planning for 907 controllers-

doing the math I got :

476 Pool 1s and 431 Pool 2s
(I assumed that Pool 1's will always have the 10% difference bonus in their favor so this is the worst case but likeliest scenario for Pool 2)

Do we have any other numbers as to how many applied/qualified/got referred? Would be able to approximate better numbers with that as well.

Also is stuckmic mostly dead? Just took a look around on their ATC Bids page and couldn't really find anything as active as here.
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In regard to the stuck mic comment I believe it’s pretty much a ghost town for hiring bid info. I browsed around for an hour or so looking for anything and I couldn’t find a trace. Just a few low activity threads with little relevancy.
 
Just to give you guys a sense of numbers, here are the numbers from the 2018 Open Source bid. Not all bids are the same, and I’m not saying this will be the same this year.

6,825 Applied
4,968 Selected to take ATSA
3,113 Took ATSA
2,384 Referred
888 Best Qualified
466 Selected

466 selected from both pools.
 
tunwno said:
Just to give you guys a sense of numbers, here are the numbers from the 2018 Open Source bid. Not all bids are the same, and I’m not saying this will be the same this year.

6,825 Applied
4,968 Selected to take ATSA
3,113 Took ATSA
2,384 Referred
888 Best Qualified
466 Selected

466 selected from both pools.
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so 466 total?

wow my estimate is way off lol
 

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